This is an amazing video. I have never seen a Elky on the race track. This is not a drag race, this requires brakes and suspension.

Check out this link

Amazing Elky video (http://videos.streetfire.net/recentvideos/3/9ba79b1e-2ae0-4acd-8a3d-988f01445abc.htm)

My Elky is nothing like this. The biggest reason I have my other car is for track time like this. It is the most fun one can have in a car with your clothes on.

Not to be mr. negative. But the only reason the el camino caught the elise is because of the traffic in front. I've owned an elise and you can not get a car the size of a elky to ever handle like the lotus. Now my elky could catch my elise in a flat out drag race every time. But when it came to handling.....no way.
I've owned both but I only have the elky left, so you know were my allegiance is. I do miss the elise though.

The better handing car is the lotus for sure but I just loved the way the air pot was working the cowl induction hood. hp wise the elky could catch the 4cyl elise, but in a corner no way.....Gran Turismo 4...LOL :lol:

Naturally it's always good to see an Elky running well on a track. :driving: To be accurate though, it didn't look like the Lotus driver was even trying in the turns plus the traffic as Bryan pointed out. He's an amateur like the Elky driver.

The Elky was driving terribly and didn't even have his safety equipment on. He maintained a bad line, chopped the apexes early and braked too early forcing him to not accelerate until leaving each turn. He'd do well to get some training.

Take care.

I do not agree---I believe there were just enough straights for the chevy to get the job done the interference by traffic might have caused the pass to happen a little further down the straight but he was being reeled in all way round the course ---distance separating them is not the big deal its time ---notice that the time for it to turn vs the times the chevy turns gets shorter and shorter----something tells me that was not a bone stock suspension under the old chevy though...............still it looked like a fun thing .............Dan

Critical racing observations aside, I just loved the sight and sound of it.

Shots like that whether amateurs, Indy or Formula 1, ALWAYS get my blood to pumping like a jackhammer.

Thx for posting the video.

(Nice to know it was a 70. That does me some good too!!)

Let me help you out.. You can learn more about the car here..
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/featuredvehicles/0702ch_1970_chevy_el_camino_ss/
Now dont some of you feel a little foolish 8)

Sweet!

I'm in love with that Camino!

Now dont some of you feel a little foolish 8)

Not at all. I stand by my original statement. You will never get an el camino to handle like an elise. That's one damn nice elky and I would pick it over a lotus any day. I've had an elise. They are all about handling but that's about it for them. My elise could almost out handle my dads F40 and that is very thought to do.

I am in no way degrading the el camino. Just stating facts as I know them. I am also in love with that elky.

Don't know who you're referring to Jimbob "feel a little foolish", but as a new member of this, or any, forum, let me give you some good advice.

ALWAYS, separate the topic of discussion from personal insults and innuendo. This is a friendly site and members disagree often, and we do it without inferring someone should feel foolish, talking about their mothers, or even their pet goldfish.

Always feel free to express your personal opinions whether substantiated or not. They will be respected, but I assure you it is best not to insult the folks on this forum. They are not defenseless and to do so serves no good purpose.

By the way, Welcome to the best Camino site on the net - period.

Take care.

I would feel foolish joining a elcamino board with a name like "letmehelpyouout" and then posting nonsense about members here feeling foolish. Soo, let me help you out... A Elise with a decent driver will whoop that camino up and down all day long at BIR and to think otherwise is foolish. You have a nice elcamino thats a good cruiser. As for drag racing its mediocre at best, and on a road course it will never hang with the lightweight huggers. Its a good high performance cruiser/street racer so enjoy it for what it is, but take a pill as its hardly the best thing since sliced bread.

I will be at BIR almost every weekend this year. I hope we can line our cars up someday as it would be nice to see 2 caminos race at BIR.

This is an amazing video. I have never seen a Elky on the race track. This is not a drag race, this requires brakes and suspension.

Check out this link

Amazing Elky video (http://videos.streetfire.net/recentvideos/3/9ba79b1e-2ae0-4acd-8a3d-988f01445abc.htm)

My Elky is nothing like this. The biggest reason I have my other car is for track time like this. It is the most fun one can have in a car with your clothes on.

Well now lets not give the impression drag cars dont require state of the art suspensions and brakes. Try putting a thousand HP down to the ground then 9.x seconds later stopping the car from 149 mph before you hit the sand (150 requires a chute). Just the double adjustable coilovers on a decent drag car would cost more than that cars entire front end suspension. Drag cars demand incredible suspension setups and brakes.
:)

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I will be at BIR almost every weekend this year. I hope we can line our cars up someday as it would be nice to see 2 caminos race at BIR. And would you be willing to give him a head start...say like a 660 foot head start? :lol:

Let me help you out.. You can learn more about the car here..
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/featuredvehicles/0702ch_1970_chevy_el_camino_ss/
Now dont some of you feel a little foolish 8)

Wow... take that snotty attitude somewhere else, this board doesn't suffer people like you.

Yeah they put up with me once a month. Thats enough punishment for ECC.

;)

Sorry for being a horrible smartass. 8)

I should add that I am not the owner of the car. It is what it is.
No need to bash him for something dumb I did.

I have a proposal. Let us start again.

Hello jimbob and welcome to the best Camino site on the web. Herein you'll find a wealth of wisdom, experience, and general knowledge. All for free - unless we can coerce you to contribute.

Welcome to the forum.

Take care.

How come Mr86Camino posts something on here, that he likes and most of the posts flame the El Camino owner? You knew nothing about the truck or the owner, just that he needs to learn how to setup his car and learn to drive! Then someone posts about the owner & the truck. and you give the owner more crap.
Keith drives at BIR all the time, I don't know him, I know of him through another web site here in Mn, I have not heard of anyone on this site that runs road course, maybe some do, but I have not heard of it here. But he does it all the time, and I think he knows what he is doing, and he's having fun and has others from the Chevelle & El Camino club go with also.

So why tear him and his car apart??

Pat

Hey JamesF there is no doubt that a drag racer like yours has some very sophisticated suspension and brakes. To get 1000 HP to go and stop fast is incredible engineering. Does that same suspension really work on a track like BIR? Inquiring minds want to know.

That is one sweet Elky. I just wonder how much money was spent to get that Elky to perform like that. Whatever it costs it is a great ride that I have to admire. I would love to have a toy like that. The paint job alone was many thousands of dollars.

It still comes down to the fact that driving on a track like BIR or Texas Motor Speedway or Road Atlanta or even the humble Hallett Motor Speedway in Oklahoma is the most fun one can have in a car with their clothes on. At the end of the day when you smile and it hurts you know it was a fun day. My Elky will never see any track time, that is not why I own it.

All I have to say is that there is a lot of money well spent on this car and it looks quite nice. No fuel in my flamethrower as yet :onfire:

This car is special in a hundred different ways, most of them very rare. If you check out the ebay listing and follow the link to his site, you can read the whole amazing, nearly all race, history of this car.

If I had the money free, I would do my best to acquire it.

For now I'll just admire an amazing machine and its story.

How come Mr86Camino posts something on here, that he likes and most of the posts flame the El Camino owner? You knew nothing about the truck or the owner, just that he needs to learn how to setup his car and learn to drive! Then someone posts about the owner & the truck. and you give the owner more crap.
Keith drives at BIR all the time, I don't know him, I know of him through another web site here in Mn, I have not heard of anyone on this site that runs road course, maybe some do, but I have not heard of it here. But he does it all the time, and I think he knows what he is doing, and he's having fun and has others from the Chevelle & El Camino club go with also.

So why tear him and his car apart??

Pat

Beccause the poster implied he was the owner and called people here foolish.. thats why. The car is mediocre at best as the interior pictures confirm. I dont get the attraction as I know a dozen caminos that are more worthy of discussion. Its a decent car... at best period. Flame away.

Hey JamesF there is no doubt that a drag racer like yours has some very sophisticated suspension and brakes. To get 1000 HP to go and stop fast is incredible engineering. Does that same suspension really work on a track like BIR? Inquiring minds want to know.

That is one sweet Elky. I just wonder how much money was spent to get that Elky to perform like that. Whatever it costs it is a great ride that I have to admire. I would love to have a toy like that. The paint job alone was many thousands of dollars.

It still comes down to the fact that driving on a track like BIR or Texas Motor Speedway or Road Atlanta or even the humble Hallett Motor Speedway in Oklahoma is the most fun one can have in a car with their clothes on. At the end of the day when you smile and it hurts you know it was a fun day. My Elky will never see any track time, that is not why I own it.
To me BIR is a drag track first and always will be. My car cant turn a corner period without eating a slick, but I put my vette on the line in the road course against that camino any day no questions asked for any amount. I like caminos but geez folks lets get real here. Its a great car for hauling 2x4's but not a good road racing car or a drag car. I did my car because I like caminos and although it can probably make a 8 second pass I know I can not compete with it at that level, I just like it the way I made it. I said the car is fine for what it is, as is mine (which I am sure a lot of people wonder why I did it). Go mow the lawn or something and quit looking for a fight. If your bored go paint the barn.

That El Camino is an amazing vehicle, 10 times better than mine is and probably ever will be. I have seen a few elkys that can hold their own on a drag strip, but it's been very few. I have never seen one on a road course that was at all competitive. It looks to me as he has built a very nice car that may do well on a road course. But be competitive against the lighter weight corner hugging cars you normally see at the track. I don't think so.
When I feel like playing around on a road track I take out my Porsche 914. And playing is all it is. I'm not the best driver when it comes to road courses. Hell I'm not even mediocre. If I feel like drag racing I take out the 49 Willys. That thing couldn't take a corner to save it's life. But than again it is a purpose built drag car.
What I'm trying to say is certain cars do certain things well, but few do both. I love elkys. Between me and my girlfriend we have three. I met her through the local chevelle club. My '67 is not done yet, so we have her '79 Caballero for cruising. Neither of them could road or drag race. But we love them more than any of our other cars.

To me BIR is a drag track first and always will be. My car cant turn a corner period without eating a slick, but I put my vette on the line in the road course against that camino any day no questions asked for any amount. I like caminos but geez folks lets get real here. Its a great car for hauling 2x4's but not a good road racing car or a drag car. I did my car because I like caminos and although it can probably make a 8 second pass I know I can not compete with it at that level, I just like it the way I made it. I said the car is fine for what it is, as is mine (which I am sure a lot of people wonder why I did it). Go mow the lawn or something and quit looking for a fight. If your bored go paint the barn.

:laughing4: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :screwy:

Pat

I know this car. The owner lives about 10 minutes away from me.
This machine does what you see.... AND is DRIVEN the 160+ miles from home to the BIR facility. As you can see it's also driven to our Club meetings! This is no pampered trailer queen.

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/SSCamino02.jpg

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/091303meet_10.JPG

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/011406_22.jpg

James F: Where's your proof?? Post it... or better yet bring your Chevette (oops CORvette) to the next open track day @ BIR and run it. post your lap time... the stopwatch will tell.

(Sorry K..., I just had to spout off in your defense)

Spouting off is exactly what you did. Your clueless and I will just leave it at that. I will be at BIR all summer with several cars. Cant wait to meet you there. Just ask your friend if he thinks he can beat a Z06 in a road race. He will be able to tell you the outcome.

Maybe the Chevette crack was out of line, but as stated the stopwatch doesn't lie, and we haven't seen proof of your (store bought) car or your abilities.

I'll still defend my friend - he's taken a 37 year old "lumber wagon", a lot of time & research, some good "new tech" parts, and built a car that'll hold it's own with the new stuff. 8)

:( Guess I have to take back what I said to the new member about us disagreeing, but not getting personal. :-(

If you read the post critically, youse fellas are actually blending three completely separate issues and making it impossible to agree. Much of what each of you have said is correct. If you separate the points I don't see you really have anything to butt heads about.

1. That El Camino is a beautiful and great performing cruck. It will easily outrun most cars and far exceeds its intended design. Give it it's due - you have.
2. There are a few highly specialized, very high-performance cars that are specifically built to excel in different forms of competition. Give them their due - you have.
3. Driving skill can skew the performance of ANY vehicle and it is clear that, while the Camino driver may be a great mechanic and a wonderful guy, he is not a skilled driver, nor was the Lotus driver. Not clear if you've acknowledged that or not, but it is an obvious factor.

I suppose you could put ego as a factor, but the only one on the Forum with an ego is Snaggleto0th, and he isn't here. (Just kiddin ya Snag.) :-D

Not trying to inflame guys, just as I see it.

Take care.

I will be at BIR all summer with several cars. Cant wait to meet you there.

My "summer cabin" is about 30 miles north on MN371 from BIR in Backus, and I try to be up there about every other weekend... pick a day! After a day at the track, pack up the kids, the dog, and come up north a 1/2 hr. for a swim, some eats, and a twilight "toddy" cruise...

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I am happy to see someone here with a little spirit. Nothing in any of my posts slammed his car, it is at least 3 worlds as Bowtie stated. Its not a formula 1 car and mine is not a top fuel car. Whats the big deal here to warrent crap like this from Ernie again...

James,

After deleting all of your posts like a spoiled brat followed by your self imposed banning from ECC it was nice and calm around here for a while. Then after eight or nine months you decided to join us again and grace us with your presence. But, you're back to your old ways by insulting other ECC members. For example:

"Go mow the lawn or something"

"If your bored go paint the barn."

"Your clueless and I will just leave it at that"

This will be your only warning. This type of verbal insulting and belittling in the forum threads will not be tolerated. I'm putting you on notice that if this type of attitude continues you will not be welcome at ECC any more.

Ernie
Forum Moderator


Earnie: To you I say "Go paint the barn"! You are obviously bored to death again and looking for a fight.

Here's a little info on the car, This guy has ALOT of money and time into this car, and it shows... CLICK HERE (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/703372)

All bytches, gripes, comments are now null & void...

This thumper has a new owner.