Man the price of gas is getting worse every week. I have a friend who is the oil market and he said we have not seen anything yet. He said the projections are we will be at $2.30 a gallon in another year. Man I will be parking my El Camino if that is where the price of gas will be. Anyone have any information on these gas prices??

How can that be? We are stabizing the region that most of our oil comes from.

hey kansacamino,

whats your gas prices now?

In the st.louis are or I should say in most of missouri our prices are 1.68 they rose .30 cents since the fall. But they usually go down to 1.20ish-140ish in the summer and then back up again in the winter. Last winter gas got up to like 1.80 or so, but I can't see it getting up to 2.00 or more for more then two years, because our minum wage hasn't rissen in like four years and our gas has fluctuated in the same price range for the past four years.

:mad: Our friendly neighborhood gas companies are telling us here in Kentucky that the 38 cent overnight rise in prices is due to several oil refinery fires in Illinois and Indiana. I don't quite believe it. I was just old enough in the 1970's to remember the shortages, which often were not real shortages at all, just oil companies running the price up for their own benefit. The current price jump seems to be more of the same. I expect the prices to hover in the$ 1.60 to $1.70 range for awhile, and then drop down to a more reasonable $1.40-$1.50. Better hold of on dropping that big block in for now, though. :P

Get use to it. Eventually they will be there. I base my opinion on the greed factor. Way more people are driving SUVs, they are safer in a wreck then the sedans of today, and the conservationists want nothing more than to shut down internal combustion engines altogether anyway so they aren't going to complain and possibly encourage or aggravate the situation when they can. So I figure it will happen. They get really close more and more before they back off and then when they do back off its far less then the amount they went up. 2 steps forward and one step back.

that is my put on it.

YOU ARE CORRECT PETE, ONCE THAT PRICE WENT TO OVER A DOLLAR IT NEVER WENT BACK BELOW A DOLLAR. IT IS NOW $1.62 FOR REGULAR UNLEADED NOW SO $2.00 IS NOT FAR IN THE FUTURE I AM SURE. I HAVE TO THINK WHAT MY FRIEND SAID IS TRUE HE HAS BEEN IN THE OIL BUSNESS FOR 30 YEARS AND HE KNOWS HIS STUFF AND IF HE SAYS IT WILL BE OVER $2.00 NEXT YEAR I HAVE TO THINK THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEND. NO ENGINE CHANGE FOR ME I WILL STAY WILL MY OLD V6.

Has anyone noticed that when the stock market shows a rise in oil prices that the pumps are quick to respond but when they go down then the pumps take forever to respond? I guess the harsh reality is that so long as we drive we're at the mercy of the oil companies. sure they got a good thing but they know it won't last forever. I love my elky but one day there won't be any juice left for her. so do we plan for the future....

or do we flatten that gas peddle and keep on truckin and call it a good ride while it lasted? I don't know, I just know I love my ride.

:mad: Our friendly neighborhood gas companies are telling us here in Kentucky that the 38 cent overnight rise in prices is due to several oil refinery fires in Illinois and Indiana. :P

I haven't heard of any fires in Indiana, wonder what thats all about?

they have been in the $1.50s here for a while. it gets over 2 and i will be looking for something else to put in my car, maybe one of those flex fuel engines,or pedals :lol:... but 2 dollar per gallon is bull sh*t!!

You guys are all lucky. Here in Hawaii regular gas in the Honolulu area are about $2.00 and on the rural areas on the Neighbor islands it is $2.30 or more.

Its all a scam and we fall for it think about it. Lets say the gas prices are 1.10 then they go up to 1.40, but then they come back down to 1.25 and everyone was like o thank god the gas prices came back down. Its still 15 cents more than original they have been doing this for forever. And we buy into it for some odd reason :mad:

-Eric

Gas prices like everything else is relative. In 1960 I and 3 other friends would chip in $1.00 each and fill up our friend's 1955 Ford convertible and cruise all night long for $4.00. However none of us made more than $1.00 per hour. Nowadays it would take $30.00 or more to do the same thing---relatively speaking about the same.

My 76 is a 383 with a 350 THM & 2.73:1 (for now), my 80 is 355 with 700R4 and 4.10:1 my 72 is going to be a 502/502 with a T56 (hopefully) and 4.56:1. Notice a trend here? Bigger is better and yes I've gone to mostly overdrives but shortening the gears.

I buy and build for power and speed, tomorrow is going to be the same and I'll even go with Nitrous on some if not all eventually. So we "run" out of gas, I had a lot of fun getting there. :D :P :lol: :lol: :lol:

I want the Car manufacturers to build those Hybrid or all alternate fuel vehicles. The less demand there is for good ol' Dino fuel the less it will cost and the more it will be available, for my lifetime anyway. When it gets to a point where the Oil companies can't give the crap away then I'll be spending less to buy it and still be cruising around in my Elky or at the track on Fri and Sat. Folks we're not going to run out of fuel. Consumption is going down and fuel economy is going up and if we actually believe the rumors of Fuel Cell Technologies and other alternate fuels then it will be here for a long long time. Past our Grandchildren's grandchildren. At least that is my view of it.

So I have to pay, I'll bitch and do what I can in the mean time to get the oil companies to notice even change or boycott when necessary but I'm still going to do it. Sorry the finest 6 banger just doesn't get me all that charged, not like having over 800 Horses pushing you forward with over 800 lb/ft. of torque. Man there is nothing like the feeling when you hook up with that!

Like I said that is just my view on it good or bad. :)

Wait until next year?....Hell just pulled into a station today, 91 at $2.05 gal. and still going up. $2.30 or even $3 a gal. won't surprise me this year.

We are stabizing the region that most of our oil comes from has nothing to do with it.....total F%#king $$Greed$$ from the oil company and history shows nothing or no one can stop them.

They do as they please. We have been getting raped with no lube :oops: for ever here in Northern California. :evil:

It's all based on greed, the HAVES want to have more at our expense and they want the HAVE NOTS to have a lot less. :-D

There is plenty of oil, never has been any kind of a remote chance of a shortage.

The price is going to continue to rise and we will keep filling them up. Uncle Sam doesn't care what were paying for fuel, as long as the gov't. stockpile is kept topped off. :evil:

You guys are lucky, here where we live in Nova Scotia our gas is 82.9 a liter for regular 87 octane, and we need 4 1/2 liters just to make one gal of gas. it cost us a fortune just to warm our car up in the cold before we go can any where.

Ours is 67.9 per litre out here today. I guess when we stomp on the go pedal in the spring it will all be worth it. :)

The only permanent relief is the fuel cell and hybrid engine technology. How long before this technology makes a real difference depends on how quickly the public panics and rushes to buy the new tech.

I was a working stiff during the 70's shortage (ha) and saw first hand what can happen when the public panics. On the short term, people will have to stop buying new autos and really curtail driving in order to get the attention of the big corporate officers and the resulting lower prices.

If all drivers agreed/refused to buy gasoline from one manufacturer, that manufacturer would be forced to lower the price. What do you think would happen if everyone refused to buy Exxon brand gasoline for one week? Then Shell, then Conoco, etc. One by one they would be forced to lower their selling price. They could sell to third parties with off brand names, but their own stations would scream bloody murder.

Anyone willing to start a rotating boycott?

In Wis the prices just go up and are about $1.70 the last time I looked. Just another great thing about the government.

they say fossil fuels are running out, but i say let the pumps pump, by the time we run out, hydrogen power will be more advanced, and with fossil fuel gone, it gives us alot more of a reason to switch

My feeling is we're all being scammed, ripped off, robbed, bamboozeld, takin to da cleaners, whatever you want to call it. I managed a gas station during the gas shortage in the 70's we had cars lined up for 6 blocks, got my gas after I closed at night. If there really was a gas shortage then, than why didn't it continue for years? Now the excuse is that the oil companies have to formulate the gas for different seasons and the gas in winter is more costly to produce than the gas for summer, and when summer gets here they will use the excuse that the gas fomulated for summer will cost more to produce. All because they didn't plan ahead and produce enough. DUH! BS! And whose gonna stop them? The Federal Government? Gee, I wonder who has major investments in the oil companies? Let Iraqi pay for the war with some of their oil, not all, just some! After all isn't that what this war is really all about? Used to be a saying "To the victor, go the spoils of war" Look up the word "crook" in the dictionary it should say "see politician" Maybe we should make half of Iraqi the 51st state, the half with the most oil underneath, oh wait, the stars on our flag wouldn't line up right...nevermind! Oh boy, now the FBIs' probably gonna want to talk to me if they read this post! I better wear a disguise. 8)

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This is why I bought stock in Exxon, Mobil, Gulf, etc. over 40 years ago - I let the oil barons pay me back in dividends and it all becomes a wash.

OR - I am so far behind I just think I'm First!!! :roll:

You can check out your gas price trends here:

Gas Price Charts (http://www.pennsylvaniagasprices.com/retail_price_chart.asp). There is a search engine for different cities in the US.

JB

Just found you can do national averages - here is past 6 months for USA.

Note: Looks like the charts are not static - you should go to the site and do your own search for national or other assorted cities and states.

http://www.pennsylvaniagasprices.com/images/charts/xgraph8.png?ii=77910

I remember every "shortage" and "crisis" since the late 60s, and with them, the public outcry from all drivers in America. I can remember the demise of the muscle car because of this... One thing is certain -- we will pay whatever they charge... because we love our cars.
In California in '92, they passed the helmet law for motorcycles, requiring helmets to be worn by all riders. If you grew up here like I did, and never wore a helmet -- then all of a sudden you had to -- you would rebel against the law (remember seat belts?). But in the end (no pun intended) you put that helmet on -- because you rather ride with that helmet than not ride at all.
~Mark

Or like here in PA, you can fight the good fight, for a looooong time! And we finally got the helmet law repealed!! Power to the people!! LOL

Skip

I paid 1.51 today. Hope it does NOT get much higher than that.

Tommy - I think you must have blinked while typing or kept typing with one hand while you grabbed for that beer!

JB :P

just filled the rig up yesterday with super $30.00 8O
then hop in with big :D becuse i got a clasic that is going up in value as we speek
not only is it fun to drive it gets looks and thumbs up every where

:D :D :D ----> payin and smilen <------ :D :D :D
as far as the alturnitive fuels im all for the idea ....as long as they have 108 octain :)

Come on folks, I just wish your problems to be mine!
Here in Germany gas is about 4,9$/gal (if I did the math right). Now you sort of understand, why i drive a diesel-convert, don't you?? And even diesel fuel is not really cheap, it's about 4$ per gal.
Greets from Germany, the LAND OF THE FEE!

JB, It was a rough day! Now that's better. I can't imagine paying more than 2 dollars/gal.

:oops: Listen to our friends across the border and overseas. They have been getting screwed by oil companies much worse than we have. Thanks folks for putting it in perspective for me. I'll have to keep counting my blessings, instead of my minor pitfalls. Remember we're only spoiled Americans used to having our cake and eating it too. Our crazy American economy occasionally hiccups and needs an overhaul. Perhaps we should discuss a "gas out" of certain oil companies, just to let them know people are watching them.

here is a simple solution that could work for gass prices... or it least in theory it is simple... you get all of these car associations and all of the labor unions that have to do with trucks and you get them all to issue a warning... about gas price bull that is going on... you pass around petitions and all that and you pick a day a few months after you start... on that 1 day you boycott ALL gas... get as many people all over the world to just not buy any gass on that 1 day... the gas stations then complain to there boss in the chain and it jsut keeps on climbing and at the end of that day the boycott will have caused millions of dollars in damage... then you just tell the gas companies we did it once we can do it again lower gas prices or we boycott again

PS i am about to start working on this problem right now... if you here about a gas boycott in cleveland ohio it might be me

One day nothing doing, give em 3 or 4 and really help em out
I can drive that long at least on a tank, if'n I keeps my foot off the back 2 barrels. :D

Was in San Francisco yesterday...Shell, 91 at 2.21 a gal. and 2.85 for full serve! :evil:

It take one day to raise the price 3 to 5 cents, and 3 weeks for it to go down 1 penny! :evil:

As consumers I think we have to point out that "we are watching"
We can't just assume someone else will do it. I'd be really impressed if we could get everyone to not buy gas for one day-not likely, but i'd be impressed if we could. It would probably make sense to pick a busy weekend when they're used to getting money and ask for maybe 80% of people to boycott. The message would be that yes, we all talk to each other and we can band together so you better listen. I'm all for a 1 or 2 day boycott, I think it's a great idea if only to prove that we can do things as a country and not individuals. crunch the numbers...no gas consumed for 1 day in North America...that's a lot. should make someone notice.

Alberta probably has the lowest gas prices in Canada. We have oil, and refineries. but we also have wind power and a little Hydro power like British Columbia. Lets remind everone that gas isn't as important as it used to be...we have alternatives and more that happy to use them. It's not a threat, just the inevitable change.

I don't see how not buying gas for one day would make any difference.
The oil companies are huge, some of the largest companies in the world.
They could easily withstand one day lost sales with no harm to them, but it would hurt the independent gas station dealers. I know a lot of independent dealers and one day without sales could easily make the difference between a profitable month and a losing month.
Ultimately the only thing that would reduce (or stop the increase) of gas prices is to increase supply or reduce demand. Since it is difficult to increase the supply it is only by reducing demand that we can succeed. We can reduce demand by increasing fuel mileage. The new Toyota Prius hybrid can get 50 miles per gallon and is a great little car, more cars like this would really help. We should also insist that all new powerplants are either hydroelectric, nuclear, coal burning or natural gas. Even a small oil burning power plant uses enormous amounts of dino juice that I would rather burn in my big block blown 1955 Chevy.

Fueling power plants with natural gas is not helpful to reducint gasoline prices. Have you not noticed how the price of natural gas has impacted gasoline prices? It has been all over the news.

Let us not forget the Pogue carb. That thing got about 200 mpg on a F*rd Mustang with a 351C. I used to have a copy of the book that told you how to construct one minus the dimensions. This was a proven device that actually worked unlike the magnets, water injectors, etc. that have hit the market in past years. The emissions levels were a lot lower than a vehicle with all the emissions equipment installed and operating properly. The technology is still available. The last I knew ( 20 years ago ) Mr. Pogue was residing in a nursing home somewhere. Members of the family refused to speak to anyone about it. Man talk about shutting down the oil companies. :evil: One guy built a smaller version for his lawnmower and ended up being able to mow the lawn all summer with just one tank of gas. :D

My mistake 100mpg ... they were called super carburators .... found a link to read up on them if anyones interested .... it is a lengthy article.

Web Page Name (http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/bp/16/supcarb2.html)

Scrubby

great article

all we need is a refinery and sale white gas

lol big brother would b SO :mad:

Gas is not too bad if your a member of the pumps with whole sale stores, like sam's club or costco, they give like 10 cent discout........NICE$$$444

But yea normally 1.77

Call me crazy, but I see an upside to this. When gas prices get too excessive for some they will find another route to get to where it is they are going (public transportation, carpool, bike or whatever). Less cars on the freeway leaves more room for me, you or anyone else who really enjoys the freedom of driving enough they are still paying the price to fill up.
Right now, I fill my tank twice a week costing about $60-$70 depending on the grade.
I'm not saying I like paying high gas prices, but I like driving. Even more, I like driving alone. Not having to stand up holding on to a railing in a hot stinky bus for an hour or sit in a compact car with five other people is priceless to me.

I guess, but what if you have 3 hot babes in your camino and on the freeway and a huge traffic jam, there then it gets hot and nothin to do because your stuck for an hour.

ahhhh bliss i say

We are stuck with supply, demand, and the mercy of Middle East oil mongers and American oil barons. Do you really think they care what we think, as the opportunity to make more money presents itself? By now, many of us are driving El Camino beaters, that would look right at home in Havana, while the moguls are chauffer driven around in their limos, such as at OPEC meetings.
Premium gas this week in Las Vegas is 215.9 a gallon. Next week, who knows?
Eric

Today I was in San Francisco.... $2.25 Reg $2.35 Plus $2.45 for 91!

well looks like San Fran is off my list of places to move to. even though i dont really have a list

gas today is Reg. 1.63, mid $1.73, and plus 1.83 :P . Whats great is that these prices are in the city in the counties, gas is like four to five cents cheaper. :cool:

Regular keeps bouncing from 1.45 to 1.65 here but I am greatful it is not higher.

I am envious (to a degree) of all you guys that can run regular. Of course I knew this when I built it, but I have to run at least 91 octane. I tried running 89 and under even the lightest load it would ping. Right now it's anywhere from 1.65 to 1.75. I may have to sell my truck and get an economy car so I can afford to drive the Elky.

Received an interesting email about how WE can actually get the gas companies to lower prices. The day or so boycott will not really hurt them enough. The idea is to boycott the two biggest for a year, MOBIL and EXXON. It also contained the math behind this theory. It is kind of lengthy even after I cleaned it up a bit so I didn't want to go posting it. The idea is for each and every one of us to email it to at least ten people and not just delete it. Sounds like Economic Stimulation if it works. I can email it if your curious or I can post it. :)

Yep, I knew it would happen but I tried to be sneeky and give my Elco a taste of 87 as it was at $2.25 a gal and 91 was going for $2.35. I just put in a few gallons; you know to see how she would react.....I went to turn off the engine and....RUN ON.. :mad: RUN ON.. :mad: RUN ON.. :mad: RUN ON.. :mad: and all the time my mufflers were muffling out bull****.. :cry: bull****.. :cry: bull****.. :cry:! That spoiled little....#$@% '70!

Scrubby, I got the same email. It does make since but only if its done large scale.

Up to $2.04 for 93 octane today by me. :mad: Oh, and I haven't bought Mobil or Exxon in over a year...they're already to gosh darn (not the words I normally use) expensive anyway.

$1.53 in tulsa I say start drilling in alaska

Received an interesting email about how WE can actually get the gas companies to lower prices. The day or so boycott will not really hurt them enough. The idea is to boycott the two biggest for a year, MOBIL and EXXON. ..... I can email it if your curious or I can post it.
Please don't post it. That chain letter has been around for several years. Just read this instead:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/gasout.htm

Interesting reading, it answered a few q's I had about oil companies selling to one another to help out the boycotted company (s). Looks like an all around loosing battle except for the oil companies.

I too have to run super, premium, plus (all of the stupid names for the really expensive crap)... right now where i am in virginia, prices are $1.89 a gallon for this crap... sucks for you guys in san fran but my elky is costing me $50 a week to keep gas in it.

just went up to 1.92 today... :evil: Tell the tree huggers to move the hell out of the way, im digging up Alaska.

Hey guys!
Just to let you know the gas prices in Sweden is 10-11 SEK for a litre which would be approx $5.20 - $5.30 a gallon, how about that! My car sucks up about 2.5 -3 l in town but I don’t care, will always drive my Elky and watch the jerks in Volvos and what have we with their grumpy faces.

You're dedicated man...really hardcore.

Heck,i just bought a duelly witha 502,gas prices be danged.

it's 1.80ish here :mad: gonna have to only fill up half way soon if the prices continue to rise and drop like this :(