last night on overhaulin' they completly tricked out a 77 elky from a base paint black to a white and bluish water drop fade. Under the engine they had a hiperformance 350, lowered the car 5 inches, and put foose wheels on it. Custom interior to match the outside paint, sparco racing seats, 2 12's in the rear cab, components in the doors, tv meshed in the center console. over all a really clean elky.

i wish my elky could go on overhaulin'....
it needs help :(

"Overhaulin" is a good show,the guys build some WICKED customs for some REAL lucky people, but Chip Foose is overrated. Working in other people's shops,farms out most if not all of the work,donates a few wheels and some aluminum doo-dads to the cause to get his name out on T.V........and then sponges up on the glory. He reminds me of that assclown honcho on "Monster House" who comes off like some kind of superintendent when in reality the guy is an out-of-work actor/stand up comic (it's TRUE!) I would love to park my elky in front of BOYD CODDINGTON'S shops and let his boys have thier way with it....or swap it 8O for the SWEET '57 they just built up from the junkyard....that would be a dream come true! YEAH!!!

This has been talked about for a while. We even shared some words with a builder on the team.

I made a gallery of screen caps if you want to relive it :)
OVER'ed Elky (http://www.elcaminocentral.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album180&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php)

chip foose overrated. have you seen any of his work other than overhualin'? he (and his old man) are some of the best hot rod builders. anyway you try rebuilding an entire can in a week by yourself. he subs stuff out to finish a car in a week. some of the guys he brings in are building stuff for the first time themselves. setting up prototype suspensions for example. cut him some slack and check out his site


www.chipfoose.com

" I would love to park my elky in front of BOYD CODDINGTON'S shops and let his boys have thier way with it....or swap it 8O for the SWEET '57 they just built up from the junkyard....that would be a dream come true! YEAH!!!

I dunno, I just saw American Hot Rod with the woody project and it looks like Boyd is in a firing mood. He fired like 4 people, 1 guy quit and they lost an intern and gained a moron in his place.

That and from what I see Boyd is an A$$. I used to have a whole lot more respect for him but this guy doesn't even turn a wrench. I respect his guys and don't know where the hell they find the patience to deal with him every day. I see him now as another one of those "Big Picture" guys with no sense of reality but wants it done yesterday. At least Foose gets dirty.

From what I see bad management could lead to bad quality and that would keep me from ever going near Boyd's place. 8)

I also share your feelings about Boyd. I have a new look at his now mass produced cars. Also on american chopper the POP or paul Sr. dosen't do much work anymore either.

Well i have to chime in ... you guys are talking about my 3 favorite shows.

#1 Chip Foose is not overrated, look at his work and his yrs of experience, his father is also a designer/fabricator. I think he's a not overrated and his name was out there before the show.

#2 Boyd is an A$$, I guess either Charlie quit or got fired in one of the episodes because he works for Foose now, I saw them on Rides when they're customizing a couple of Caddy's for "Rides"

#3 American Chopper - Sr. doesn't do anything but hold a cup in his hand yell at Paulie. When's the new episodes coming out anyway.....

Moneypit 68, what are you smokin'? Chip Foose is one of the hardest working people on Overhaulin. Like the others said, Coddington needs to get his act together. You don't run a successful business to the ground because of stupid, moronic firings. He didn't even give some of them the benefit of doubt. No wonder Charlie went to Foose...someone who knows how to run a business and has the talent to back it up.

You know, I too had some respect for Coddington until recently. Now, I wouldn't give him the pleasure of giving him my business.

As for Paul Sr., he's got a hot head but, at least, he's not firing everyone.

I have to agree with 82 meeno on the Boyd issue the only cool person there is/was Charlie. I will also agree that Boyd does not do alot of the work if any, but like Paul Sr they have paid there dues to be where they are in life why should they have to do the work. Don't get me wrong I think you lead by example, and don't ask anyone to do something you would not be willing to do yourself. That is what I like about Foose. Plus if you really love what it is you do no matter how successful you are you still find time to do it. Of course these are just T.V. shows. How much of it is over dramtized? These are just my opinions though.

Did I miss something was Charlie the body man fired too? (No way!!!)

Also why Foose differs him self is his deadlines; he may work on a car for years. His moto is I'll finish it when it's finished.

Foose and the other car build that I have forgot his name (he built the car called shicane) Based on the Biscane {but twin turbo}. He is much like foose with his building styles.

troy trepaier i think

Yes. thats him.
I really like his work to. He seems to concentrate more on the engine, which is probably fooses only weak spot. (a 350 is only cool in so many things)

Chip is an artist. He is one guy that can take something in his head put it on paper make it look cool as hell then make it happen for real. All by himself if he had too. Would take some time byhimself though.

I think we need a poll started.
Any nominiees?
~Boyd
~Chip
~Troy
~....
~....

Ed "Big Daddy" Roth

last night on overhaulin' they completly tricked out a 77 elky from a base paint black to a white and bluish water drop fade. Under the engine they had a hiperformance 350, lowered the car 5 inches, and put foose wheels on it. Custom interior to match the outside paint, sparco racing seats, 2 12's in the rear cab, components in the doors, tv meshed in the center console. over all a really clean elky.

I kept missing the damn episode so I finally just went out and bought a copy of it on DVD from the discovery channel store. They have that one and the one about the Fire rescue truck available for 21.95.

I bought it because the few snippets in there that I have caught may provide me with some information.

:D

Wow! Apparently charlie on American Hotrod is going to work with foose on a riddler car. Has boyd ever done a riddler car?

About time!

I don't know if Boyd has ever won the Riddler, but Chip is the only one to win it two years running. He pulled out last year because he couldn't finish the car the way he wanted to in time. A couple other builders pulled out because Chip pulled out, even though the Riddler is the most prestigious award there is in hot-rodding they evidently thought competing against Chip to win it is more prestious.

In all honesty, I think that Boyd, Chip, And Paul Sr.have put in their time. As far as Boyd and Paul Sr., they are reaching that age where working out in the shop everyday is a little taxing on their bodies. Chip however, is a might bit younger and that may be why he is still hands on in his projects. Also, maybe one reson why Charlie from Boyd's shop went to work for Chip Foose os because Foose at one time worked for Boyd in his shop. Maybe a coralation. Who knows? Reguardless, All three of them are very accomplished and I really think that their talent is unique and legitimate.

Well Said!

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I thank you sir!

BOYD SUCKS that show started out good then that bald shop foreman kinda took over and things went south.'' LITTLE MAN COMPLEX'' big time he's always cuttin on someone, and to hear him they would have to close the place if he ever quit. If Charlie gone thats going to hurt the show and Boyd. AMERICAN CHOPPER --OVERHAULIN--RIDES ----ETC.---AS THE WORLD TURNS--- THEN BOYD ---LOL SEEEEEYA!!!

Boyd is indeed a talent, that said he is also a primadonna.

I'm not suggesting that he roll around on a creeper and weld up the chassis himself. Thing is he rarely shows up in the shop and has no useful input when he is there.

It's not so much that he doesn't get his hands dirty. It's that he is a poor communicator. His projects seem to come out of the ether and are expected to meet deadlines that have no basis in reality.

He constantly blindsides his crew with these projects and expects unquestioned compliance with his unrealistic deadlines. His meetings don't resemble anything constructive and usually deteriorate into meaningless bitch sessions when someone tells him that the real world isn't going along with his fanatasies.

His biggest problem is communication. If he cares so much about the project then he should be more involved in it. Instead of handing down commandments from the mountain he should be actively getting feedback on it as it progresses. But Boyd doesn't want feedback, he wants unquestioning compliance.

In short he is an example of everything wrong in a manager or executive. I can now see why he was in bankruptcy a few years ago.

The show is not making him look good at all.

I dont watch it and have only seen it a couple of times(thats why I dont watch) Boyd was a primo builder at 1 time a lot of years ago but is trying to make his workers maintain that reputation with like you said unrealistic goals and time frame deadlines.He should be more involved if he really wanted to live up to his reputation! just my opinion!

I really like the truck but I hate those ugly wheels. Too big for the vehicle and look like its some old conostoga wagon, its only missing the 20 mule team.

let me tell u all somethings
first . chip is good at what he does yea on the show you don't see him dong alot but it is what they are not showing you that counts.
second. boyd has done cars all by him self way back before alot of people decided it was cool to customise there stuff he has paid the way for chip and all the rest to make it in these business and by the way chip started out working for boyd and learning all the ropes.
and third. paul sr. was building bikes way before alot of us were born and he knows what he is doning he taught jr. everything he knows and is letting him express himself by build the way he wants to .
if sr. or boyd wanted to they could build just as good if not better then the rest of these people all put together. and that is the bottom line , and if you don't beleve me then why don't you contact the tv channel and ask them to put on a contest to see who can bulid what and then we will see.
charlie left the show becouse he wanted to be closer to his family and he was tired of the schedule boyd had on all the guys, and he just couldn't handle that anymore which is fine he went with chip and i wish him all the best.

let me tell u all somethings
first . chip is good at what he does yea on the show you don't see him dong alot but it is what they are not showing you that counts.
second. boyd has done cars all by him self way back before alot of people decided it was cool to customise there stuff he has paid the way for chip and all the rest to make it in these business and by the way chip started out working for boyd and learning all the ropes.
and third. paul sr. was building bikes way before alot of us were born and he knows what he is doning he taught jr. everything he knows and is letting him express himself by build the way he wants to .
if sr. or boyd wanted to they could build just as good if not better then the rest of these people all put together. and that is the bottom line , and if you don't beleve me then why don't you contact the tv channel and ask them to put on a contest to see who can bulid what and then we will see.
charlie left the show becouse he wanted to be closer to his family and he was tired of the schedule boyd had on all the guys, and he just couldn't handle that anymore which is fine he went with chip and i wish him all the best.

I reject your anaylsis and your hero worship.

8)

I dont know much about paul sr and dont remember his name at all from the 70s when I rode and built bikes in upstate NY. The big names then almost always came from Calif. Arlen Ness,Big daddy Ed Roth and without belaboring the point there were others. I also remember Boyd Coddington from those days, these guys paved the way for newbies such as jesse james and all of a sudden television has grabbed the popularity and ran with it. None of them are heros and conflict,controversy make for ratings!

this is coming from my 16yr old mind not as many yrs but i beleive they have sold out to hollywood they are all to worried about making a little more cash not there products and they dont love wut they do nemore. i got no problem with making money while u do wut u love to do. hell i work for a handy man making 15 an hour and i love my job i learn alot everytime i go to work. but wut i am saying is that for every paul sr. and boyd and foose there are hundreds of other ppl who are just as good but didnt get that lucky brake to have all that money to work the way these guys do. peronally i have more respect for the guy who is buildin his bikes or cars in his garage as apposed to some guy who is all artsy fartys and ****
bottom line i like the working man over ne one who is on TV becsoue they still have the heart to put into the product they are building unlike these big name becouse all they are trying to do is sell.
-chance

Yeah, the old guys did this and that and that's fine.

But I have to say that I have a whole lot more respect for the guy who makes something awesome in his garage using limited resources than a Boyd or a Foose. While we all would probably like Foose to take a turn at our Elky's it's probably never going to happen. Worse, If you watch the episode with the 77 you hear him say he doesn't really like the Elky's much. Said it's "awkward" but has cool elements.

Anyway I'd much rather watch the "run what you brung" drag races on Fridays nights than the muliti-million dollar Top fuel stuff anytime. Again because I appreciate the efforts of the common guy who has to work without a big sponsor paying the bills.

What most of us do with vehicles that many consider junk is just amazing when you step back and look at it. I think the only reason that our rides have been creeping up in value lately is due to folks like us who create the buzz. So keep buzzing everyone! Then maybe I won't have to pay 90.00 for a NOS hood ornament that nobody makes anymore! :-D

What Chip Foose was saying was that the 4th gen were ackward