Just thought I'd ask you guys what motor /combo would be the best bang for the buck. I was thinking 350ZZ4 or something along those lines-they say you can get an easy 350hp with one.also, could that motor withstand a 125 shot of nitrous? seems like you could have a 475hp motor for about $4000. I'm rebuilding a 68' for street/strip. already have a 12 bolt rear in it.-was thinking about 3;73 gears and th400 trans.what do you guys think about this???? truck is going to be driven on weekends only.thanks!!

For about $1500 you can have a Goodwrench motor. its a 4 bolt block and its cheap enough you can put your own heads or intake on it and not break the bank.

would that be a better way of achieving my goal of 350+ hp? aren't those goodwrench motors putting out about 285hp?maybe with better heads,cam,intake it could produce 350+ would I have to have forged pistons or anything to run a small nitrous kit?(125 hp). thanks for the help.

For the same money you can build a 383 and get 425-475hp before the nitrous. At a local swap meet last week an engine builder was showing 383's with 450hp for $3750 complete with carb. On the nitrous for the ZZ4 you can do it but if the top ring is to tight (end gap) or top ring is to high on the piston you will shorten the life of the engine. If you build your own you can build with an eye towards nitrous in the future and avoid those problems. I just finished a 383 in a 78 vette for a friend (477hp@5800 and 462tq@4600) and he's out embarassing the ricers and his 19 year old son and his "hot camaro". The best thing is the car runs on 92 octane,but tuning that edelbrock carb on the dyno took 3 hours to get right. Just a different point of view that I hope helps.
George

I picked up a complete Gen I four bolt main heavy duty block machined for a roller cam for $150, (may only need to be honed). New these blocks run around $700-$800 from GM. An Eagle 383 all forged complete kit balanced runs around $1500. For about $600 or less in machine shop work, I will have a 383 short block, minus roller cam, capable of producing over 500hp depending on pistons and roller cam I choose, and will be able to withstand a large shot of nitrous if I decide to add the kit later. A set of Dart Pro I 215 cc runners aluminum heads run around $1100 assembled . You do the math. I am still a firm believer in building my own motors rather than buying crate motors and replacing the parts I don't want. Buying a crate motor for some is a good idea, but I believe in building my motors from the ground up!

I like building my own too but when I saw this I had second thoughts!!!

http://www.gmpartsdepot.com/store/product1.asp?SID=8&Product_ID=977

You won't be able to buy that ZZ4 engine and install a nitrous kit for $4000, it will cost a lot more. Look at the GMPP 350HO. For $2395 you get a good solid long block that you can dress for less than $1000. Get a good 125hp nitrous kit and safety controls for another $750-$800 and even with shipping you can have 475hp dependable horses for less than $5000.

PACE (http://http://www.paceparts.com/subcatmfgprod.asp?0=239&1=241&2=-1) check their web page.

THANKS FOR THE TIPS GUYS. I CALLED MY LOCAL MACHINE SHOP & THEY CAN TURN MY 350 INTO A 383 FOR ABOUT $2250.I WILL HAVE TO SUPPLY THE MANIFOLD,CARB.-THEY RECCOMENDED A EDELBROCK AIR GAP MANIFOLD& EDELBROCK CARB.THIS COMBO IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE 350 HP AND IF I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE MORE THEY CAN PORT THE HEADS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 30 HP. THEY CLAIM IT WOULD HOLD UP WELL WITH A 125 HP NITROUS KIT. SEEMS LIKE THE 383 IS A POPULAR SETUP.

I CALLED MY LOCAL MACHINE SHOP & THEY CAN TURN MY 350 INTO A 383 FOR ABOUT $2250. What are you getting for $2250? Forged or cast crank, rods and pistons or a combination? What brand parts? Internally or externally balanced. Be more specific on what they're doing and what they're using to turn your 350 into a 383. Is your block a 4 bolt main? What type heads do you have? What size valves? Give us as much info as possible and we'll let you know if your paying too much or if it's a fair price! It's a little bit more involved than just waving a magic wand to turn a 350 into a 383...especially your 350 and your $2250. I'll tell you right now, if they are going to use an all cast rotating assembly for that price, run don't walk to another machine shop! An all cast assembly can be bought for $600-$700 (if your going to use nitrous, your asking for trouble with an all cast assembly). An all forged assembly will cost twice that. Boring the block...approx $150. Clearencing the block for the 383 crank and rods...approx $150. I'd say all the machine shop work minus any assembly can be done for around $800. On another note, depending on the heads you have, I wouldn't invest any money into them...or even consider using them, if they're the small valved heads.

I'm not sure what year elky you have, but anything onther than a 5th gen will be happier with the 454HO, and you will NOT need nitrous!

The 383 stroker will be a good choice as well but as others are saying, a properly built one that will stand nitrous is not going to be cheap!


JMHO!

A 327 (http://www.rebuilt-auto-engines.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=230&p_catid=&sid=1AlF2z0-9HgC0e6-56104263565.45) will rev quicker then a 350. I's say a mildly built 327 with a 700r4 and 3.73's would be a great street/strip combo. Thats what I'm planning.

Look I love 327s I have them in my Vettes (actually one is 331ci), but if I had to go out and buy a new engine I would opt for a 350. Cubic inches=horsepower, why throw some away for no good reason.

Look I love 327s I have them in my Vettes (actually one is 331ci), but if I had to go out and buy a new engine I would opt for a 350. Cubic inches=horsepower, why throw some away for no good reason. Can't forget the "COOL" factor the 327 has over the 350, LOL. But a stock 350 vers a stock 327, then the 350 wins for a few more ponys. But then again the year of the 2 engines comes into play. Some years of 327's produced more power then some years of 350's. The late 60's 327 was putting out 300+ HP as where the mid/late 70's 350's only put out 165 to 185 HP.

z3pr both the 327 and 350 are small block Chevy's. If I dressed 327s and 350s the same you would not be able to tell the difference between them. I'll tell you what's cool---a smallblock Chevy with a 671 blower and two Holley double pumpers, a smallblock Chevy with a Z28 crossram manifold, a smallblock Chevy with Hilborn stack injectors. Don't confuse the inflated horsepower numbers of the '50s and '60s with the real world horsepower of the 1970s and later. The engines of the '70s and '80s suffered from emission controls but you can take a 165hp 1979 350 and with a few mods turn it into an engine as powerful as any '60s powerplant. There is no advantage of a 327 over a 350--just the opposite since a 350 has 23 more cubic inches. Please, I love 327s but there is nothing inherently cool or superior about them.

you should look into a 400 small block..mrappi is right cubic inches equals both instant and cheap horse power. The more cubic inches you havefrom the start the cheaper your build up will be. I know some people wont agree with that but its true. If you start out with a bare 350 block or a 400 you have your instant base of hp to work off of. That saves you in the long run in having to spend more for other extra things to obtain horsepower. 327s are nice, dont get me wrong, but i dont see how it would be cool saying i have one. I think It would be cool if i said i have a 350 that pumps out over 400 horses on pump gas, or if i had an original car that had its original 327 in it with only 1,000 miles on it. Heck i would even go so far as to say it would be cool saying i have a 400 small block, they are just about extinct. IF you want more bang for the buck just rebuild a nice 4 bolt 350, stroke it out or whatever, and go from there.

z3pr both the 327 and 350 are small block Chevy's. If I dressed 327s and 350s the same you would not be able to tell the difference between them. I'll tell you what's cool---a smallblock Chevy with a 671 blower and two Holley double pumpers, a smallblock Chevy with a Z28 crossram manifold, a smallblock Chevy with Hilborn stack injectors. Don't confuse the inflated horsepower numbers of the '50s and '60s with the real world horsepower of the 1970s and later. The engines of the '70s and '80s suffered from emission controls but you can take a 165hp 1979 350 and with a few mods turn it into an engine as powerful as any '60s powerplant. There is no advantage of a 327 over a 350--just the opposite since a 350 has 23 more cubic inches. Please I love 327s but there is nothing inherently cool or superior about them. I know they are both small blocks. As far as power differences go, compression is more of a factor then a few CI in my honest opinion. Yes, you are right, you can "BUILD" a 350 with more power then a 327, but the "cool" factor still remains. I still like the shorter stroke of the 327. There is no question that a 350 has more torque, but it's going in a El Camino, not a heavy vehicle.

you should look into a 400 small block..mrappi is right cubic inches equals both instant and cheap horse power. The more cubic inches you havefrom the start the cheaper your build up will be. I know some people wont agree with that but its true. If you start out with a bare 350 block or a 400 you have your instant base of hp to work off of. That saves you in the long run in having to spend more for other extra things to obtain horsepower. 327s are nice, dont get me wrong, but i dont see how it would be cool saying i have one. I think It would be cool if i said i have a 350 that pumps out over 400 horses on pump gas, or if i had an original car that had its original 327 in it with only 1,000 miles on it. Heck i would even go so far as to say it would be cool saying i have a 400 small block, they are just about extinct. IF you want more bang for the buck just rebuild a nice 4 bolt 350, stroke it out or whatever, and go from there. I know that the 400 small block is getting rare, I have one in my Blazer K5. I grew up in the HOT ROD sean and in my opinion a 327 has higher "COOL" factor then the more comman 350. I'm not argueing that it'll make more power, because we all know it won't. I'm not after the most power, if I was, I'd go with a Supercharged big block. I'm going for a fun to drive vehicle with a improved resale value.

well maybe i am missing something here. What is so cool about having a 327? I have been around the hot rod scene for a while too and i have yet to hear or see anything about a cool 327, unless its a stock original with just about no miles on it in a vette. There is no cool factor to having a 327 unless its like what i stated above in the other posts.

You're right of course. To someone new to the hotrod scene maybe a 327 seems "cool", but the 327 was just an iteration of a long series of successful smallblock Chevy motors. The 1965 327ci 375 hp does have the distinction of having the highest factory rated horsepower of all the 1st Gen smallblocks. Actually the 1955 265ci might be "cooler" and way more significant.

You're right of course. To someone new to the hotrod scene maybe a 327 seems "cool", but the 327 was just on iteration of a long series of successful smallblock Chevy motors. The 1965 327ci 375 hp does have the distinction of having the highest factory rated horsepower of all the 1st Gen smallblocks. Actually the 1955 265ci might be "cooler" cooler and way more significant.


Funny how times change!

I remember when a "cool" 265 "Power Pack" became not so cool when we found out a 348 would fit in a 55-57 Chevy!!! Back in those days, much as it is now, we just couldn't leave anything alone! Then the GTO came out, then 396s came out, and.........the rest is history. :)

You're right of course. To someone new to the hotrod scene maybe a 327 seems "cool", but the 327 was just on iteration of a long series of successful smallblock Chevy motors. The 1965 327ci 375 hp does have the distinction of having the highest factory rated horsepower of all the 1st Gen smallblocks. Actually the 1955 265ci might be "cooler" cooler and way more significant. Well, I'm 38 years old, and obvously you guys don't know what I mean by "Cool factor". I remember in my teens crusin' when 90% of the cars were hot rods. Kinda funny that a Nova with a built 327 was cooler the the same car with a built 350. Even back in the early and mid 80's the 327 was rare. 350's were a dime a dozen, everybody and thier brother had one.

[/quote] Well, I'm 38 years old, and obvously you guys don't know what I mean by "Cool factor". [/quote]

Yea, What's cool to one is not always cool to another, that's like saying different strokes for different folks, but hey, that's what makes the world go round my friend!!!


"Cool" for me= seeing the look on my buddy's face when his stock 283 67 Malibu takes more gas than my 72 454 elky for exactly the same distance!!! Gotta love overdrive!

Well, I'm 38 years old, and obvously you guys don't know what I mean by "Cool factor". [/quote]

Yea, What's cool to one is not always cool to another, that's like saying different strokes for different folks, but hey, that's what makes the world go round my friend!!!


"Cool" for me= seeing the look on my buddy's face when his stock 283 67 Malibu takes more gas than my 72 454 elky for exactly the same distance!!! Gotta love overdrive![/quote] Agreed, whats cool to some may not be to others. Now I would defently put a 72 El Camino with a 454 pretty high on my cool meter. 8)

z3pr you're missing the point. "Cool" is when all or most people agree that it is "cool". If you're the only one that thinks it's "cool" then you just have an oddball opinion.

thats like a person sayin over and over again that bell bottom pants are cool..

:mad: hey i like my pants just fine!! i like 327's too. you are arguing about twhat he thinks is cool!! he likes it! whether you agree or not it is HIS opinion. my opinion is go for a 350. just cheaper to get and to build. but a 327 would be awesome too. you could build a 327 to blow 350's away, but you could do that with almost anything with enuf money in it. an as for "odd ball opinions" with out them the world would still be flat.

well, its nice to have an engine built because you can pick and choose

heres an example of what my combo is for reference

http://elcaminocentral.com/users/elky85/elcamino%20specs.txt

btw it runs on 87

Nice combo. The only thing I would be concerned about is the Z28 dual snorkel air cleaner. I have been advised by people who should know that the dual snorkels were marginal at best for the 305HO engine and would certainly be inadequate for your engine. Just look at how small the inlets are and compare them to the inlet of your carb.

Nice combo. The only thing I would be concerned about is the Z28 dual snorkel air cleaner. I have been advised by people who should know that the dual snorkels were marginal at best for the 305HO engine and would certainly be inadequate for your engine. Just look at how small the inlets are and compare them to the inlet of your carb.
what would you reccomend? and don't say open element, cause thats just 10 times worse breathing all that hot air off the intake. Plus with the dual snorkel i'm routing some 4" Aluminum Hose for some colder air.

A GM crate 350 w/Ram-Jet injection is cool enough that many street rodders are now choosing that combo. And, it's got a solid warranty behind it. Hook that up to a 700r4 or a 2004r and you've really got a desirable combination in most vehicles.

In my opinion the Ram-Jet equipped 350 evokes images of the 1957-62 fuel injected Corvette and other FI equipped Chevy engine bays. Now, if we could just make the Elky look like the 1957 "Black Widow"...

In the choice between adequate warm air and inadequate cool air I would choose adequate warm air. The problem with the 305 HO air cleaner assembly is not the size of the hose but the size of the two air inlets that go over the radiator support, they are a serious restriction. You also have two general alternatives. A hood scoop, either a conventional forward facing scoop or a cowl induction hood taking cool air from the base of the windshield. Both could be sealed to the carburetor. Another choice is a air induction system with either two 2" hoses or one 4" hose. The pickups for cool air could be either thru the inner headlight openings, the inner fender wells or even below the bumper like a '60s Oldsmobile 442.

As i was browsin throught the net i came across this site im 15 years old and been workin around cars all my life startin with a 63 c-10 up to a 40 ford(many cars in between). I know my way around the shop pretty well but lets get to my point I have a 66 c-10 with a BUILT 327 in it now if you want to define cool heres cool= my 327 out runnin a 454. the truck has a 327 in it with a 400 crank high performance lunati cam, yan dome tops(bored .30 over), dart heads shaved 25 thousandths, performer RPM edelbrock intake , 600 cfm edelbrock 4 barrel. there is a turbo 350 transmission in it with 4.11 gers under it. on a good take off and enough weight in the bed the truck will stand up.Now if you dont think thats pretty bad *** and it comin out of a 327 i dont know what is. Im not new to hot roding but i do know just about everthing there is to know about a chevy motor. I know this is a camino site but since yall were kindly putting down the 327's i thought id add something to see things a little differently abot em'. I hate to brag but i have to tell some about what im runnin every now and then.

I guess 15 year old wet behind the ears kids know everything about 327s. I was 15 years old when Chevy put the first 327 in a car. I cut my teeth on 265 and 283s. I've been building and modifying 327s for a lot longer than you have been on this earth. I'm not putting down 327s, I LOVE 327s and have two Vettes right now with 327s but I can guarantee you that I could put together a 350 that would outpower any 327 you could think up, it's just plain mathematics.

Hummmm lets see ---a 327 with a 400 crank in its would make it a hummmm 383 just like putting a 400 crank in a 350 would make a 383 so hummmm I guess a 327 that runs like a 383 would be pretty bad .............Dan

You make a good point Old Coot, you can make a performance engine out of almost any smallblock Chevy motor. I of course was talking about a 327 with 327 cubic inches and a 350 with 350 cubic inches. You and I, I think come from the old school where the most important modification you made to that smallblock Chevy was to make it bigger. I remember one of my first high performance Chevy smallblocks was a 283 with a 1/8" overbore to 4.00". I had a 1961 Corvette and that little 301ci was a
screamer and of course Chevy copied the same formula and came up with the Z28 302 a few years later. The fun factor of a lightweight car with a manual trans and a high revving smallblock is very high which is why I have a 1962 Vette with a Muncie 4-speed and a 331 smallblock.

You're right of course. To someone new to the hotrod scene maybe a 327 seems "cool", but the 327 was just an iteration of a long series of successful smallblock Chevy motors. The 1965 327ci 375 hp does have the distinction of having the highest factory rated horsepower of all the 1st Gen smallblocks. Actually the 1955 265ci might be "cooler" and way more significant.

The 327 was the third generation Chevy V8 Small block built, according to GM the first regular production V8 (229 I think) was the first 8 cylinder and it was installed on the 55 Chebys. The next iteration was the 283, then the 327 and the 350 finally the 400, which Pontiac actually had developed for the Firebird, Trans Am I think it was to compete with the Mustang and the Camaro. It competed for sure and beat the paints off them!

Rat engines didn't come out until around the time the third generation small blocks came out. I think GMs first Big Block in production cars and trucks was the 396 but I am not positive about that. Now GM has seen the advantage of the 383 Power Plant and produces it's own versions. One for a regular Truck or car which is their HT 383 and the Performance crate, I have, the ZZ 383. Even the short block from GMPP is pretty expensive but comes with more than most short blocks do, not a lot more but some. Rods are made for the 383 stroke. Some home made 383s have to have a CAM with a small base circle so that the Rod Knuckles don't hit the cam lobes. Or in some cases the rods have to be modified, I beam Rods, to clearance them properly which weakens them.

H-Beam rods are a must for a 383, my way of thinking, that way you generally don't have the same problems with the rods contacting the CAM lobes. I have built 2 strokers and have bought two from GM well, 1 and a half. One was actually a short block. My thinking is a 383 is the way to go or a 400.

Well actually Pete Chevy had a shortlived V8 engine back in the 1920s. The first modern V8 was the 265 in the milestone 1955 Chevy. Also just a point--the LS1, LS6, LM7 etc. are commonly called the third generation smallblock Chevys, LT1, LT4 are the second generation, and earlier smallblocks are the first generation. And Chevy OEM smallblocks have come in many sizes including 262, 302, 305 etc. I think most people would consider the first Chevy bigblock the W-block 348 which was first introduced in the 1958 Chevrolet but had previously been developed as a medium duty truck engine. That 348 grew into the famous 409 and even a very rare 427. The Rat motor was generated from the so-called "427 Mystery Motor" which Chevy tried to use in NASCAR in 1964 but had to discontinue because it wasn't available on factory cars; by the way my hero Smokey Yunick did a lot of R&D for Chevy on that motor. The first of the Rat motors were used in 1965 Chevrolets, Corvettes and a very few Chevelles, and as they say the "rest is history".

I'd say go with a 400 and get the stroker kit for it, which will be about the same price as a 350 stroker kit, should make it about a 437 stroker I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. . . . . .

Landon

lets start off saying that mr.mrapii must think i am really dumb just because im 15 well this is fox news and we have a breaking story I AINT i know what wet behind the ears means.It mean im young dumb and stupid.If you want to talk about somebody you need to atleast talk about somebody who couldnt find their *** with both hands if they were sittin on it.Talkin about old school those are the kinds of motors i know about these new motors they came out with a know just a little bit about.My dad is a "old schooler" too if you want to say that hes 55 so he was around 15 when the 327s first came out and i never said i know everthing and as far as i am concerend nobody on this earth knows everthing not even you and i believe is what i said was i know JUST ABOUT everthing there is to kow about a chevy motor and know where in that sentence did i name a specific size so fist off read carefully.Now enuff with the b.s i do believe i was talkin about a 327ci block not what it is with a 400 crank i knew it would be a 383 before i built it.And yall may have been around a hell of a lot longer than i have but i do think that it would be kinda hard to build a 350 that would put out more power than a 327 because its just like any other motor you can keep addin to it.side note nos is a plus but i do not think it is a very good idea to use it because it would be the first lead to your motor blowin up.

Yeah, actually I do think you're really dumb.

Yea, and I think my 454 elky will tow that 327 pickup down the road faster than it'll run under it's own power!!! :cool:


I know, I know, be nice!!! :cool:

Just kiddin kid!!! 8)

I'd say go with a 400 and get the stroker kit for it, which will be about the same price as a 350 stroker kit, should make it about a 437 stroker I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. . . . . .

Landon

I'd do this over a 383 again. However, the largest you can go is 434 with a stock block, and even then you have to have a perfect casting as the bottom of the cylinder walls have to be clearanced for the crank and a lot of times you break through into the water jacket. With an aftermarket block it is easy and with the right block you can do a 472 small block, but there is nothing left for an overbore later. Thats spendy though. You can do a 421 (I think) on a stock block for about the same price as any other stroked/destroked small block.

thisll be the last post to all of yall yankee idiots and mrapii if you ask me id say your soakin wet behind the ears with the definition of old dumb and retarted.

Go away kid, yourre... bothering me.

Im not getting involevd in anyones business I just found the site and I think my 502 z28 will tow them all. 8)

AAAhhh to be fifteen again ------no thanks----I only thought I knew everything then------The truth is the later model 350 blocks have much higher nickel content and wear much less and seal tighter and last longer.....327's are ok --if you got one use it --unless it is an early one with the small main journals---in that case its cheaper to get a better 350 block anyway.....................Dan

I didn't know you could live in Hawaii and be classified a "yankee"?c-10 66,you use the words yall and yankee in the same sentence and you're calling other people idiots?Go crawl back under your rebel flag junior.What more can be said about the small chevy 350?You can't build anything better for the money.Nuff said.

Well I sure do wish I could compete in the tow off YA'LL are having over the net but my suspension in the rear is shot and it bottoms out when someone just climbs in the back . So I'm out and c'mon guys we can't let Mr. Z28 fury w/ his 502 out do the el camino someone top him . . . . even though I've never really seen a camaro do much towing at all.

Landon

I'll top him....










With a 632.....










and some funding........









Anybody want to contribute? :-D

You know I am very familiar with youthful male exuberance. My wife and I have raised 5 sons from 39 years old down to 14 (OOPS!, Honey... are you sure you took those little pills?). His total lack of respect for my aged wisdom and advanced years didn't really bother me. But......if I could get a hold of that little sh*t........I would slap his empty head till he cried for his mama.

Mrapii

Its true. But as far as "normal" production small V8 it was and we already agreed in 55. 50 years ago in January, actually this year but it didn't get into a car until 55.

Super Chevy just did a story on the past 50 years of development on the infamous Small Block Chevy Engine. And I believe that the V8 in 55 was a completely different design than the earlier one and it worked better.

What GM Calls "Generation" and what is actually Generational is two different creatures. The small block V8 changed in more than Just size between the first one in 55 and the Next one the 283. Again between that and the 327 there are some differences in the blocks. Gm might not find them that significant as to classify them as a "Generation" but a change, other than just the bore and stroke, makes it a different generation. And for the first several years GM was changing their blocks and getting better all the time.

Now the GM Small Block is the most successful V8 in automotive history bar none.

Then again its really only trivia and not that big of a deal. I mean it's not going to add or subtract from my bank account if I'm wrong or read the article wrong or misunderstood what they said. But I didn't. I wouldn't have known or even thought about that if that article hadn't been written/

Later

Oh,

c-10 66

There is going to be lots of people in your life that will disagree with you and lots that will agree with you. Its their entitlement as free citizens of the world to agree or disagree or even be neutral if they want to. Nothing worth getting you under drawers in a wad about. Relax.

Sometimes it is better to keep you mouth shut and be though a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. We've all been through the teen age years and survived. You will too and its the stuff you learn after you know everything that sitcks with you.

OK, so who has a good tow rope!!!!

:lol: 8) :lol:

I was out at my shop today when my neighbor walked in and i was working on my camino and on the valve covers i have 350 stickers on them my neighbor saw them and said "is it a small or big block 350" my reply was small chevrolet did not make a big block 350.We argued back in forth until i got tired of it.Someone please correct me if i am wrong about them not making a b.b. 350.

The closest to the 350 cubic inch big block Chevy might be the old W block 348ci but it is a totally different engine than the 1st Gen small block or the Mark IV big block. The Mark IV big block was available in a 366ci version but only for medium duty trucks. Maybe he's confusing the 400ci smallblock with the 402 big block?

Does your neighbor have a 15 year old son with a 327 Elky, per chance?