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ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-11-2004, 11:29 PM
What kind of parts are you looking for? If you need something for your restoration or custom elky project let me know so we can work something out. More people interested in the same product the better. I'm sure you all know how it works. So post up on how RonsRaceShop can help you with your build.

PunkRican
09-12-2004, 01:17 AM
id like to find a nice dash conversion that looks good and slides right in to the 70. i have the square gauges and it just looks ugly, id liek to get soemthing round, not specifically the SS gauges, but just soemthing round and good-looking.

razor376
09-12-2004, 04:47 AM
I went to your website and you have a good selection of parts from most aftermarket vendors but a lot of them them don't have Product images I think that would need to be addressed.

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-12-2004, 12:21 PM
yeah thats my biggest problem with the site as well. our site manager (my brother) hasnt really been getting on the ball so i'm gonna learn how to do it so i get get it rolling. i guess you can only count on the youngest to do everything. :D

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-12-2004, 12:32 PM
id like to find a nice dash conversion that looks good and slides right in to the 70. i have the square gauges and it just looks ugly, id liek to get soemthing round, not specifically the SS gauges, but just soemthing round and good-looking.

something like this:

http://www.covansclassic.com/images/374.jpg

we can get you a panel in plain black, brushed aluminum, burl wood, or carbonfiber, with the selection or ultra light gauges, phantom, carbonfiber, or sport comp. or if you dont like the gauge layout we also carry blank panels where you can mount you gauges anyway you like.

cost is anywhere from $300 for a blank panel, $900 with CF gauges $800 with phantom or ultra light's or $600 with sportcomps. those prices are not set in stone though io havnt recived my pricing software yet so i have to call the office to get you a deffinate pricing.

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-12-2004, 02:11 PM
ok beast deal i can cut is the 6 gauge in brushed aluminum , burl wood, black, or carbon fiber finish with the sportcomp gauges is $570 shipped

i only have pics of brushed and black finish but here you go for an idea i personally like the black

http://www.covansclassic.com/images/376.jpg

http://www.covansclassic.com/images/375.jpg

Caveman49
09-12-2004, 03:12 PM
I could sure use a dash like that for my 74 Elky, what can you do if anything for that year dashes?
I'll bet there are a few folks on this site who would be interested in a 4th gen dash.
Thanx for any input.

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-12-2004, 04:06 PM
sorry covans doesnt carry anything for a forth gen only 64-72 chevelle. but, i'm sure if we can get a big enough intrest they probably will put that higher on the priority list. if you guys want to make another thread to get people that are interested and i'll see what i can work out with covans. unless you can swap older gen dashes in a new car. i know i've seen a 74 style dash in a 72 chevelle so there just may be a way to hook that up.

PunkRican
09-12-2004, 04:42 PM
those are very nice. So thats teh best deal you can get? can we get a close up shot of teh gauges or soemthing? id really liek to see what they look like in detail. thanx a lot man.

btw, is that supposed to just slide right in? because i printed it out nd compared it to my dash and it seems i have a couple more slots than the conversion does. forexample the lights switch is on the top left corner on my dash, will i have to relocate that soemhow? and i see there's the two slots for the air conditioning vents and the air conditioning controld on the top right. theres not big slot at the bottom for a radio, but i guess i can just make that myself. and the cigarrete lighter thing, thats pleaceable custom too right? liek i can just stick it in the new dash if i wnat to and all? and all teh hole sthat are already there, my stuff shoudl just slide in right? sorry for bothering u w/ so many questions, but u hafta understand, im barely 16, so i dont have much money to throw around. i just wanna be careful.

TRIK-56
09-12-2004, 04:52 PM
I really like 5th generation Elkys but one thing I have never liked about them is the license plate sunk into the middle of the tailgate.

I wish someone would make a solid tailgate skin eliminating the license plate pocket. I just think the plate looks better on the bumper myself.

PunkRican
09-12-2004, 04:57 PM
wll what you could do is weld on a piece of sheetmetal covering it up and somehow place the license plate soemwhere else. i know they sell kits for it but im not sure where.it also depends on how easily and cheaply you can access a welder and some painting.

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-12-2004, 05:29 PM
is it more like this one?

http://covansclassic.com/data/uploads/NEWChevelePanels.jpg

these are the only pics that i have of them. the gauges are autometer so they look the same as anyother. covans claims that this kit will just bolt right up so it should.

for the roll pan lauren eng carries them matter of fact i just bought one and a tucked front bumper for my 5th gen. in plan on relocating the plate into the roll pan and welding up the tailgate along with addding caddy taillights on the side like they do to the mini trucks.

PunkRican
09-12-2004, 06:10 PM
looks just like the very first one you showed, but the gauge thing doesnt go as far over to the left so the light switch goes tehre, i guess i could probably just relocate it.

if you look at the picture of this car, youll notice the square speedo. and at lthe left it cuts off and the light switch is there, thats really teh only thing the conversion is missing, cause the radio and all i can probabl;y just install right int here in the flat part.
P.S. i hope teh owner of this elky doenst mind that im using their picture, its the only one i coudl find to use as an example, very nice car by the way.
http://elcaminocentral.com/albums/album206/71_15.sized.jpg

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-12-2004, 07:31 PM
ahh ok silly covans i wonder what they suggest for that. i'll try to call them tomarrow after work to see what they say (i'm also in the airforce doing this part ime to help out)

PunkRican
09-12-2004, 07:40 PM
that would be splendid, thank you very much. btw, nice job on the site.

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-12-2004, 08:43 PM
thanks alot. :D

PunkRican
09-14-2004, 02:44 PM
ron...my birthday's in two days bud...itd be a real nice present to get that question answered lol. a discount would be nice too :P

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-14-2004, 02:56 PM
ok the pic i showed you is for the ss they do have a malibu style (the one you need) and said you dont have to relocate anything with it so it will work.

PunkRican
09-14-2004, 07:04 PM
awesome, thanx a whole heck of alot man. so is it stillt he same price and the same general look w/ all the same gauges just the extra hole and what not?

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-14-2004, 07:15 PM
yup same price and when i called and asked him he said it's the same dash excetp it's moved over to except thos additional holes.

80elcamino
09-14-2004, 08:18 PM
Hey, I'm torn between recovering my dash and buying what he's looking for. What can you do me for on a 5th gen dash?

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-14-2004, 08:29 PM
the only thing out for the 5th gen that i know of is the dakota digital system. i wish there was more (since i own a 81 elky and a 79 malibu) out there. you can always buy some autometer gauges and fab something up. i plan on doing this to my malibu. the dakota system is nice though.

http://www.dakotadigital.com/cartimages/STR6D-81C-MClarge.jpg

we dont carry it but if it's something your interested in i'll see what we can do to add it to our product line

80elcamino
09-14-2004, 09:10 PM
no that's fine I'm looking for the entire dash. Nice site thought, I'm a webdesigner. I'm currently building a e-commerce site for a local speed shop; Don't worry I won't plan to steal your thunder and post the URL.

BIGBLOCK
09-14-2004, 11:29 PM
Within the next month, I'll purchase a Covan's dash for a '72. Part No. 120-70-50001. Their price is 799.00. Is your price 799.00 with shipping included in the price?

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-15-2004, 12:38 AM
best i can do is 785+shipping will it be the malibu style or ss style dash? pricing wont matter just curious

camino81
09-15-2004, 08:40 AM
the only thing out for the 5th gen that i know of is the dakota digital system. i wish there was more (since i own a 81 elky and a 79 malibu) out there.

Last i had heard covan was supposed to be working on a 5th gen/G body gauge cluster kit. Haven't heard anything about it in awhile though, maybe you could check with them ron.

vrooom3440
09-15-2004, 01:51 PM
Sorry to derail the thread, but for those considering the Covan's dashes this is pertinent...

Note that the Covans dashes are constructed differently than your original and will require some fabrication work. Stuff like cutting holes for the radio and indicator lights. The plastic is also a lot thinner than original.

You also need to watch what kit you order of the several options they have. Some have a wiring harness and some don't. You can also get them without guages and get your own guages seperately. For example if you wanted to run Stewart Warner guages or electronic speedo or pretty much anything outside Covan's box.

I picked up one of the inserts for a '68 and a full set of electric Autometer Sport-Comp guages including the electronic speedo. Then I find out about the wiring harness when I call to ask about indicator lights. If you get their wiring harness (which is actually put out by American Autowire) you will get the world's smallest LEDs for your indicator lights.

I have not finished putting mine together yet... but real soon now.

The Ron's Raceshop website has all kinds of eye candy... I have probably spent enough for now (or put another way my parts backlog is approaching max garage space) so I probably won't be buying anything extra. But if I ever win the lottery sign me up for a set of those 4-valve cylinder heads 8)

Having said that, I saw that you carry Accel DFI stuff? I may need some bits and pieces to complete my latest Ebay purchase of a Gen 6 MPI ram system. Like a fuel pump for example.

Steve

vrooom3440
09-15-2004, 01:54 PM
You know what I don't see? I don't see any performance brake systems. Did I miss them somewhere?

Someday a nice set of Baer 12" fronts would be nice... and maybe a hydraulic boost brake master cylinder...

Steve

Supercharged 86
09-15-2004, 02:21 PM
Do you have Edelbrock IAS shocks for the 5th gen? I know I saw them for $270, but I can't find that place any more :-( Maybe you stock them at a good price! :-D

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-15-2004, 10:04 PM
we do carry edelbrock IAS shocks fronts are $78.99 each and rears are 88.99 each. just a FYI those shocks are sweet and i plan on sporting a set for my elky when it's time to do the suspension.

for the fuel pump we currently have the aeromotive A1000 pumps on sale for 299.99 that price will last untill the 19th of october.

the arao heads are real nice. i hope to get a set for my ls1 when they come out. uh oh i said too much already :D

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-15-2004, 10:10 PM
Sorry to derail the thread, but for those considering the Covan's dashes this is pertinent...

Note that the Covans dashes are constructed differently than your original and will require some fabrication work. Stuff like cutting holes for the radio and indicator lights. The plastic is also a lot thinner than original.

You also need to watch what kit you order of the several options they have. Some have a wiring harness and some don't. You can also get them without guages and get your own guages seperately. For example if you wanted to run Stewart Warner guages or electronic speedo or pretty much anything outside Covan's box.


thats some good need to know. is the plasic stronger though? with it being thin it probably makes it easier for fabrication. most people that get that stuff usally have something custom they want to do so that leaves options open. is it at least a nice piece? i dont want to push crap products on anybody ronsraceshop doesnt need a bad rep so early in our carrer know what i mean.

vrooom3440
09-16-2004, 02:24 PM
Sorry to derail the thread, but for those considering the Covan's dashes this is pertinent...

Note that the Covans dashes are constructed differently than your original and will require some fabrication work. Stuff like cutting holes for the radio and indicator lights. The plastic is also a lot thinner than original.

You also need to watch what kit you order of the several options they have. Some have a wiring harness and some don't. You can also get them without guages and get your own guages seperately. For example if you wanted to run Stewart Warner guages or electronic speedo or pretty much anything outside Covan's box.


thats some good need to know. is the plasic stronger though? with it being thin it probably makes it easier for fabrication. most people that get that stuff usally have something custom they want to do so that leaves options open. is it at least a nice piece? i dont want to push crap products on anybody ronsraceshop doesnt need a bad rep so early in our carrer know what i mean.

I would say that this is a product where it is very important to set your customer's expectations upfront. Covan's web site is marginal in this respect. They show you the eye candy but leave out a lot of details. If a customer thinks of this as a hot rod part that will take some work and adaptation and perhaps some fabrication, then they will probably be happy with it. If the customer is expecting a complete bolt-in and go they will be dissappointed.

As to the thin plastic... well this is a vacuum formed part so it is only going to get so close to exact shape. And the thickness will vary as some areas get stretched more than others. I suspect that it will become like a stressed skin structure and be good enough once it is screwed into the dash. I did have some issues with the plastic being too thin for my Autometer speedo and tach to clamp onto (I had to make up some plastic shim rings). When asked, Covan's claimed to never have heard of this problem. I also had some issues with backside switch bracketry holes not aligning quite right.

Again not trying to slam anybody's product, this is the full dash insert for a '68 El Camino. I suspect it is pushing the limits of a vacuum formed part due to its size. The smaller insert panels should be much better.

Yeah I *do* have pretty high standards :cool:
Steve

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-16-2004, 03:44 PM
cool thanks i'll be sure to let everyone know that some fab work may be involved in the install. i wish i could find out for my self but i dont own anything that would work for my application.

6thKenny
09-16-2004, 07:19 PM
you got anything CA-legal? fukin pot-smokin hippies got the CA emissions laws so messed up that i like to go get a cheese buger then eat it in front of hippies and then follow them around saying, "mmmmmmmm.... Dead cows......" just to P-iss 'em off!

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-16-2004, 08:58 PM
what are you looking for? i'm assuming a sbc of some sort. how about a crate motor?

6thKenny
09-17-2004, 06:18 PM
Can u do that? I thought it was illegal in CA to replace the stock motor?

If you do got a CA street legal Crate motor, I'm DEFINATLY Interested!! :-D :-D :-D :-D

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-17-2004, 07:45 PM
well it depends on what you want. easy way is a lt1 or a sbc if you want good power light weight and dont mind some fabwork we can get you a ls1 crate motor. i'm not to sure about cali smog laws though. but i think you can swap motors but it has to retain the same emmisions stuff set up for either that car or that motor. although dont quote me on that because i dont know for sure. if you can get me the smog qualifications and give some guidelines to go by i would be more than happy to set you up with the a setup of your liking. also, whats your price range? that way we can determine what will work best for you.

6thKenny
09-18-2004, 03:11 PM
Thats the problem. I don't know what the smog lwas are and i cant find a place that has 'em. and my price range dont matter 'cause if i do decide to get a crate motor, i wont buy it for a few yrs.

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-27-2004, 07:11 PM
so guys any covans stuff??????

PunkRican
09-27-2004, 09:47 PM
i still want the gauge conversion, but im nto so sure how much money ihave at teh moment and what i can buy. can u still get that price whenever i gather all the $? bc i kinda have floors to replace now and stuff like that. but i guarantee ill be gettin it sooner or later

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-28-2004, 11:00 AM
price should be good for a while i'll be sure to give you a heads up if anything changes

BIGBLOCK
09-28-2004, 03:57 PM
best i can do is 785+shipping will it be the malibu style or ss style dash? pricing wont matter just curious

SS Style. I just received my car back from the paint shop and there are many issues that have to be sorted out. I'm beginning to have bad thoughts about those that serve the car hobby.

When I order, you will get my business. Does the part that I quoted come with everything needed to install? What's the deal with having to drill holes for light swtches - are some of y'al riding around in the dark :cool:

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
09-28-2004, 06:26 PM
from what covans told me the malibu style is just like the malibu dash. the ss style should have all the holes mounted in the right spot for the ss version. i call them again to see what kits need what for install they should have everything but like what was said above sometimes they dont so i'll find out

crazymike67
10-04-2004, 06:31 PM
does that 2nd gen fit a 67 elky! that is sweeeeeeet!! and would fit my need for the upper trim, and the guage/lower dash mouldings. and of course, whats the price!!!!!???????? 8)

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
10-04-2004, 09:20 PM
well it depends on what you want. covans has a bunch of diffrent setups. they come in a black, bural wood, carbonfiber, and brushed aluminum. with sport comp, ultra light, phantom, and carbon fiber gauges. or you can get bare setup with no gauges.

crazymike67
10-05-2004, 03:52 PM
I would be interested in one with the silver finish, with the basic sport comps. Will that radio blank be sized right for a din style stereo? It looks like it is, it looks so close to what the original looks like( except that the upper molding is split...)I am really interested on price for the style I talked about. Where are you guys located at? I'm in Oregon. I will look back at this thread to find a web site..........just askin' cause i'm askin' other stuff. thanks!

crazymike67
10-05-2004, 03:53 PM
OH! almost forgot, I also need the price for one in aluminum, without guages too!!! Thanks.

crazymike67
10-05-2004, 04:20 PM
OK! I answered my own question I think. I went to their site, and stragly the carbon fibre is cheaper than the aluminum. ( fabrication i guess) and it runs $ 599.99 for the 66'- 67' model in carbon fibre with sport comp guages. Can you get it cheaper than that??????????? :cool: well anyways, the product looks great, but like its been said here, the fabrication( or cutting/hacking required) seems like it would be nessessary. It has the upper molding split, so in guessing that the half of the upper would need to be cut up a bit to make the one piece upper/lower molding fit right. but hell, its cool looking, and im not even remotely " restoring" mine, so its all good. I'll have no worrys cuttin' it all up to get a look like this product offers. Do you, or are you going to make up a catalog?? if so i would like one please! :D

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
10-05-2004, 05:16 PM
for the carbonfiber finish with sport comps i can do it for 590.99+shipping it's a lil better.

vrooom3440
10-05-2004, 05:54 PM
Regarding the Covan's dash and DIN radio fitment...

You would think that DIN sizing would be a fundamental design parameter... the pictures make your '67 look like it should be less critical by it's design but the radio indentation on my '68 Covan's is about 1.5" wider and about 1/4" shorter vertically than a standard DIN. The wider part is to make it look right with the header control panel but the height is a factor of how deep they made the pocket. I was able to make it work by not using the standard face bezel that came with the radio and just letting the faceplate project through the dash hole. It does not look too bad if you cut it very carefully and closely. It does make mounting a challenge however since the bezel is normally how the radio mounts to the dash.

This would be a good thing to verify specifically for the '67 with Covan's,
Steve

crazymike67
10-08-2004, 07:20 PM
OK Ron, I gotta know, is the 4160 holley really only $100.00????????????????? 8O I am really in need of that specific carb.I will buy one this next week if so. lemmie know bud! see ya, Mike 8)

ronjr@ronsraceshop.com
10-09-2004, 12:53 AM
wow thats cheap hahaha. no their not that chaep though i'm not sure what happened. I fixed the pricing. thanks for letting me know