I have been thinking about doing a Flame Thrower exhaust system for quite some time now and i was wondering if there are any options other then buying a kit from somewhere. I am pretty handy with electrical work and mounting the coil and stuff like that. On top of everything, It would be a little more rewarding for me to blow flames out of my exhaust and knowing that i made it and didnt buy them off of a shelf. Get back to me....

I would think that first you should decide what you want to use for fuel. Liquids would include lighter fluid, alchohol, kerosene, etc. STAY AWAY FROM USING GASOLENE! Gases would include butane, propane, etc.

Then, how do you deliver the fuel to the exhaust pipe? Is is a tank with a valve? Manual or electric?

Then you will need an ignition source. I don't think the heat from the exhaust will be enough. If you use a liquid fuel, I really don't have any good ideas, but if you use a gas, you could create a "spark" ignitor. Propane BBQ grills use them, so it should be a easy set up. Since it is for a truck, how about using an actual spark plug, hooked up to a switch?

Rather than a flamethrower, I had always thought you could rig up a smoke screen, to back off tailgaters. The idea would be to hook up a small dump tank to the exhaust pipe, filled with anti-freeze, or even commerically available "fog juice" (for theatrical special effects). If someone gets too close, you open the valve, and it sends the contents of the tank to the hot exhaust pipe, where it vaporizes and produces a generous amount of fog/smoke/steam. The tailgater would be freaked out, and hopfully back off!

I've always thought flamethrowers were useless bling-bling.

I've always thought flamethrowers were useless bling-bling.
Not to mention illegal for street use.

I was thinking about them too for a little while, but once I found out the flames could only be short bursts after you rev the engine up it seemed dumb. In the videos I saw and in the stuff I read I saw that the flames won't be as big as you might hope for and you can't just "turn them on" which I think would be cool. If they could be used at any time, I could see myself turning them on at a light or at the track and just flooring it. 0-60 in flames! I'm sure it just wouldn't turn out like I'd hope it would though :(

Just to what i did, remove the gas tank in favor of a fuel cell, remove coil springs in favor of air bags. A few cuts in the frame, hit the gas and drag the bumper for as much sparks as you can handle!!!!

OK Matt here goes, I highly recomend bying the kit and they range from $50.00 to $150.00 and from experiance most are the same. I have experiance in this area from many friends building one themselves in many different versions and all have worked really good but look like crap. I install the kits and are very reliable and you can chose the type of fuel canister from any local welding supply house. And yes you can operate them any time you want and for any duration of time. They are really cool at evening cruise-ins because everyone and I mean everyone waits to see it. Most depending on exhaust size will shoot from 3' to 6' flames and make sure the exhaust pipe clears the bumper by 2", if you have pipes out the sides it WILL burn the paint. Most guys have them on the Rat Rods because most are in primer anyway.
Dan.

OK Matt here goes, I highly recomend bying the kit and they range from $50.00 to $150.00 and from experiance most are the same. I wouldnt mind spending somewhere around $50 or $75 to do it. I just dont know about the "fuel injection" idea. I have read about just basic systems that involve some sort of spark to ignite unburnt exhaust. I dont think i want to drive around with a tank full of flammable liquids that is for the purpose of making flames. Doesnt seem too safe. And as to the other comment about the cheap bling bling. Im doing it as a novelty and really just to have somethin to impress the friends. I dont plan on roasting tailgaters or anything. The other thing about it is that although people may think that it is cheap, it is somethin that i would have to show you in order to see... as opposed to say the spinning hubcaps or slapping chrome trim around every single body panel that it will stick to......

OK Matt here goes, I highly recomend bying the kit and they range from $50.00 to $150.00 and from experiance most are the same. I have experiance in this area from many friends building one themselves in many different versions and all have worked really good but look like crap. I install the kits and are very reliable and you can chose the type of fuel canister from any local welding supply house. And yes you can operate them any time you want and for any duration of time. They are really cool at evening cruise-ins because everyone and I mean everyone waits to see it. Most depending on exhaust size will shoot from 3' to 6' flames and make sure the exhaust pipe clears the bumper by 2", if you have pipes out the sides it WILL burn the paint. Most guys have them on the Rat Rods because most are in primer anyway.
Dan.

Well that sounds good for me. The kits and videos I saw were crappy looking. Hmmmmm :?:

Jusy my .02. I'd also suggest buying some form of personal defense weapon, the first guy who "fires up" showing off and burns my ride is gonna get one hell of an ass whoopin'.

We would'nt want to burn that beautiful paint job of yours! -just kidding w/ya.

I think a little scorching on the side of Dennis' ride would improve the looks.

Jusy my .02. I'd also suggest buying some form of personal defense weapon, the first guy who "fires up" showing off and burns my ride is gonna get one hell of an rear end whoopin'.

is it just me or is dennis68 always looking for a reason to get violent? hrm.....

No not always, just when dumbass' trying to look cool (open to interpetation I guess, flaming exhaust is not cool around here) wind up trashing somebody elses' stuff. A 3-6' flame throught the grill would for sure fry some wiring and plastic.

hey i was thinking about flame throwers to
haha yeha i never saw ne point in throwing on seom bad Potty Mouth rims on a piece of Potty Mouth looking car. its is prolly fast as heck but if it looks like Potty Mouth dont spend the money on somthing usless make ur car look decent then do flames or wutever else ur want

I'm not sure if that is Ebonics or incompetents. If the piece of **** comment is intended at me, my POS will runs laps around your ride, part of the reason for the nice rims is to clear the 13" brakes. Nobody makes a POS wheel to clear that much rotor. there is a HUGE difference in installing accessories or components that add to function. Adding a torch to the tailpipe is worse than spinners, hell worse than hydraulics.

Spell check, it works great for those that haven’t successfully passed the 3rd grade yet. :?

ZZZIING! haha- hey, if you feel like putting on one of the kits- GO FOR IT. but remember, go big...or go home. And please dont rag on rides- we all have projects, dennis' car is obviously not finished(like most/all of ours) and maybe take his words lightly, I'm sure he (or some other valiant ECC vet) will be there for you when you can't wire/start/tune your mean machine.

(and this all comes from a 17 year old kid. I thought i was supposed to be the one full of piss and vinegar?)

-Luke

As far as I am concerned Dennis' Elky is in the fine tradition of hot rodding. Go back to the '40s and '50s and many rods were painted in primer with rugs for upholstery and they were considered "done". The emphasis was on performance and not looks. Compare that to many cars today (and I'm primarily thinking about Japanese imports) with 3 or more spoilers, gaudy grapics, ridiculously sized wheels and "farty" exhaust pipes. Someday Dennis may paint his ride but that won't make it any more "done" than it is today.

hey hey
i knew it was fast and it prolly would run laps around my 73 i figured he just slapped some rims on them if they have a function then Potty Mouth but most Potty Mouth around hear just think well heck ill spend more on my rims then on my car. its like some Potty Mouth at my school with this Potty Mouth 70ss nova and some 18s. it has a stock 350 he has no need for those rims and they look like Potty Mouth i guess its just a matter of opinion. i always thought it looked batter the have some 15 by 11s on the back instead of just osme 18s front and back. but if htey serve a perpose then alright. i always liked flame throws becoseu of the movie grease. and i wasnt raggin on ur ride. i just assumed u were puttin those rims on for show instead of spending the money to get it painted.
u know wut they say when u assume u make an Potty Mouth out of u and me

sorry again dennis

and yeah i did pass the 3rd grade i just dont spell worth a Potty Mouth .

As far as I am concerned Dennis' Elky is in the fine tradition of hot rodding. Go back to the '40s and '50s and many rods were painted in primer with rugs for upholstery and they were considered "done". The emphasis was on performance and not looks. Compare that to many cars today (and I'm primarily thinking about Japanese imports) with 3 or more spoilers, gaudy grapics, ridiculously sized wheels and "farty" exhaust pipes. Someday Dennis may paint his ride but that won't make it any more "done" than it is today.

Check out the software your computer came bundled with, most of it is junk but I like the "works" line-up. Somewhere hidden in the vast programs tucked deep in the hard drive is a word processing program. Copy/paste your posts on the WP and let spell check have at it, then copy/paste again into the reply box. Easy no?

Jusy my .02. I'd also suggest buying some form of personal defense weapon, the first guy who "fires up" showing off and burns my ride is gonna get one hell of an rear end whoopin'.
my guess is that dennis68 knows what he's doing w/ his camino. i've seen him post many times, and i've taken advice from his posts. but anyway, he's an agressive ass, as i've seen on a number of posts. i do believe mr. perfect dennis that elcaminoss85 wasn't planning on buring your or anyone's grill w/ his flamethrowers. and being an idiout and showing your ignourohgance w/ showing someone's easy mistake mistjlgjsgslspelling shows how silly you can be. don't think that everyone is against you. and if someone wants to do something to their ride, even if you don't like it (because we don't have to ask your permission to do what we want), people will do what they want. so live w/ it, and quit threalfjltining to beat up people because of what they do. thank yew four yuor tyme.

Guess I stepped on a nerve. Oh well, it isn't the first time. Here is my point, if you want to goof up your car-go right ahead. If you want to do something that is not only big time illegal (not a little fix it ticket) but endangers the lives and property of others around you then I am going to say something about it.


Spelling is pet peeve, too damn easy to fix it with all the free spell check programs available.

Spell check, it works great for those that haven’t successfully past the 3rd grade yet. :?

Past? looks like someone needs grammar check in addition to spell check.

Thanks for the grammar check, correction made.

"looks" should be capatalized :P

"Past?" is not(do not use conjunctions) a complete sentence. All of these grammar errors are blowing my mind!

-Grow up,
Luke

Spell check, it works great for those that haven’t successfully past the 3rd grade yet. :?

Past? looks like someone needs grammar check in addition to spell check.

Try this one. "Past?, looks like someone needs grammar check in addition to spell check.

Now, past is a question in the statement. I hope this makes everyone happy, so that we can all shut up and talk about flaming exhausts now.

Ok, all you maniacs, calm down a bit, this cat is doing what we all would like to do, drive it while we work on it. Hell, I wish mine were 'drivable' today, no matter how it looked. " Can't we all just get along?? :D One thing is for sure though, spell check won't solve everyones 'issues'. L8R.

Glad to know that my idea of flamethrowers caused such an issue. Unfortunately, I am gonna have to say that im not a d-u-m-b-a-s-s for wanting to do it and, for those of you who do think that, I have no intention of shooting flames at the tailgater behind me or the crowd of elementry school kids on the corner waiting to cross the street. Maybe you might think that you would accidentally do these things. However, Im preety sure that I have a little more common sence then that.

Uh...sence is spelled s-e-n-s-e...I think. And if you do flame some elementary kids....I like mine well done, please.

i say roast the kids, but not the cars. i'm with you all the way. flames are great, and i'm sure you're not wanting to burn a car or anything for that matter. (except the kids, which is ok) anyway, i support you 100%, until the police come over asking about the kids.

seriously, anyone who bashes you for doing it is an idiot. if you burn a car for riding your #^& on the interstate, you're an idiot, but i don't think you plan on it, so that's ok. screw everyone else, do what you want to w/ your elky.

Now that you've considered it consider the other side. What damage can it do to your power plant? It can and there is a warning about that with the kit. The kits I have seen shut off the ignition for a cycle or two to build up a raw gas charge in the exhaust then fire it back up. Raw gas on a hot piston for one or two cycles will create at the very least "Piston Wash" and can cause fouling of the spark plugs, premature failure of the plugs and in some cases possibly blown head gaskets and exhaust gaskets.

Then there is contamination of the oil with fuel that gets past the rings, raw fuel in the compression stroke. My opinion, is that it is not good for the engine and you shouldn't use it. But that is just an opinion. I can't see throwing away up to 6000 on an good engine for a 3 to 4 second display that you can't even watch anyway.

But hey, have fun that is what its all about. :D

Anyone who bashes you putting on a dangerous and stupid kit is an idiot huh? :?
It poses potential damage to your own car, others cars, and anyone near you,and it's illeagal to even have ....don't ever get caught using it. Depending on the officer you could be charged with a felony and have your veicle impounded.