11-29-2004, 10:03 PM
All of the 3rd gen el Caminos have the backup lights in the tailgate. I have had that removed and moved into the bumper next to the tag. Pilot has a set of backup light in a kit with a wiring harness included for trailer hitches application. Gottem at AutoZone they fit perfectly in the marker openings on both sides of the tag and look original. I had to make 2 small brackets per light, working with the gate down gives you access ans makes it ez. What a difference 55 watts make when your backing up. The wiring harness was a snap to install and jumper into the old connection.
11-30-2004, 02:02 PM
Not all 3rd generation Elky's have the backup lights in the tailgate.
In 1968 they were in the bumper and then the other 4 years they were in the tailgate.
11-30-2004, 06:47 PM
Thanks, I stand correted on the 68's , but still is a great upgrade for a custom look and better rear vision!
12-05-2004, 03:11 PM
Might also be really good info for any 68's out there with rusted and corroded up backup lights that need to be replaced...
Not that I personally would know anybody like that ;-)
What model number lights did you use?
12-06-2004, 12:05 AM
Pilot NV-803 or NV-110
I think these are the ones check the measurement of your bumper opening I had 1/4 inch on each side.
To make the bracets I used a wire closet shelf to shelf side connector because of the offset and thickness. Drilled and tapped the end attached to bummer and nut & bolted to light bracket.
Good Luck Joe
12-06-2004, 07:45 PM
Thanks, I was looking at something like that at Kragen today but did not have measurements with me. I am going to start carrying a backup light lens around with me for comparison.
The mounting should not be a big deal since the originals, at least in '68 when they mounted the bu lights in the bumper, are nothing more than 2 screws at the top.
12-08-2004, 12:10 AM
My Autozone had a different product number but it sounds like the same parts. They are Pilot "Back up lights for mounting on trailer hitch" with a number of PL-250. Took an original lense with me and they look to be almost exactly the same size.
These are pretty close to overkill since they have a 55w halogen bulb in each light. I figure we are looking at close to 8.5 amps of current draw and GM only ran 18 guage wire to the back. It should handle it ok for momentary usage I guess. Note that these run off of the turn signal fuse... so either watch out for using backup lights with a turn signal or try it out to see if the fuse blows so you know not to do that again :-)
At $25 they sure do compare favorably with restoration parts at $80.
12-08-2004, 08:07 AM
Overkill hmm 8O
I don't know with any window tint it hard to see backwards anyway, but I haven't used my turn signals in reverse, I might get confused :? and have not had any fuses go.
You'll appreciate them the first time you use'm! :cool: