well i got my new list from spohn so i decied to check out their site and i ran into these lower A-arms's.

adjustable A-arms: $495.00
NON adjustable A-arms: $395.00

http://www.spohn.net/productimages/754_big.jpg

http://www.spohn.net/productimages/752_big.jpg

1.25" x .120" wall seamless DOM tubing
Ball joint cups are CNC machined from 2.75" o.d. x .375" wall seamless mechanical tubing
CNC cut and formed 7 gauge spring boxes with stepped spring seat
Moog "Problem Solver" greasable ball joints (installed)
QA1 3/4" chrome-moly spherical rod ends with TeflonŽ/KevlarŽ self lubricating race
Rod ends allow additional alignment adjustability
CNC machined through sleeve and zinc coated spacers keep rod ends perfectly centered inside of the mounting brackets
Formed .125" sway bar end link mounts
Durable and brilliant powder coated finish
Fully assembled and ready to install

you can also get these in chromemoly and in either black or red. they have non adjustable versions as well which are about 100 cheaper if you guys are interested i can always try to set up a gp with spohn to see if we can get these a lil cheaper but were going to need at least 10 commited people to do that

Do I like them? YES Do I want them? YES Can I afford them? NO

And I'm doing my front suspension now too :( Why do A-arms need to be so expensive!!! I can't look at that adj. LCA picture any more, I'll just get upset! :lol:

Do they offer upper control arms as well? I am looking for a nice control arm setup that I don't have to change the spindles with. Hotckis you need to change the spindles and brakes. -Matt

Do they offer upper control arms as well? I am looking for a nice control arm setup that I don't have to change the spindles with. Hotckis you need to change the spindles and brakes. -Matt

no they dont :-( i'm going to call them and see if they have some in the works though. i'm sure if they do it will be for the big brake upgrade though

yeah that is the problem I am having everywhere. I already bought dropped spindles, slotted rotors, new calipers, and SS brake lines. I would love to complete my suspension package with som e tubed control arms, but I don't want to change the brakes. -Matt

Iam calling in a order for some black adjustable ones! Very cool! 8O I have been waiting for these for awhile..I'll post some pics when i get them

yeah that is the problem I am having everywhere. I already bought dropped spindles, slotted rotors, new calipers, and SS brake lines. I would love to complete my suspension package with som e tubed control arms, but I don't want to change the brakes. -Matt

Matt, you can run stock spindles with the tube arms from Hotchkis, DSE, and GW. They were designed for the tall conversion but it is not essential to run the conversion spindles. By running the conversion arms without the tall spindles you will have a very short shim pack and if it is not lowered at all (via springs) then you may wind up with as degree or so negative camber (which is NOT a bad thing).

yeah that is the problem I am having everywhere. I already bought dropped spindles, slotted rotors, new calipers, and SS brake lines. I would love to complete my suspension package with som e tubed control arms, but I don't want to change the brakes. -Matt


I don't know what happened to what I wrote before, but try pitstopusa.com, speedwaymotors.com, and daymotorsports.com. They make circle track upper arms for $50 each. 2 right sides should work, but they have solid bushings.

I definately don't want solid bushings... too noisy and too rigid. I have dropped spindles and lowering springs in the front of mine now and I was always under the impression that I would have to run the f-body spindles in order to run the Hotckis arms. if that is not case that's great... it will just cost me another $500 for my car. LOL O-well. -Matt

I just did some quick research and they all say they must be used with either the earlyb f-body spindle, or the later model b-spindle. One or two say they can not be used with the stock spindle. I guess my Upper and lower control arms will be fine the poly bushings and the rest of the suspension upgrade. -Matt

You could just get PPR adjustable uppers from SC & C and be set for everything!