hello , sorry 2 B gone 4 so long, the old computor became somewhat useless. I would like help with these numbers. ST 69-13680 BF 0709 ; TR 770 B80 B90 61 61 ; 03B 065867 460356

ST 69-13680 BF 0709
ST is short for STyle
69 - 1969
13680 - Custom El Camino 2 dr pickup delivery
BF - Fremont CA Fisher BOdy Plant code
0709 - Body Number assigned

TR 770 B80 B90 61 61
TR is short for TRim
770 - Saddle (tan color) vinyl bench seat
B80 - Chrome roof drip moldings
B90 - Chrome door window frame moldings
61 61 - Lower and upper paint color is the same, Brunished Brown


03B 065867 460356
03B - Production week
03 - March
B - 2nd week
065867 460356 - Data Processing Sequence Number, all orders to the plant got assigned a uniqe number for processing.

thank you for helping with the codes. while working down thru the several re-painting jobs , it usualy looks like the car was blue then burgundy then white . but some times i'd sware the blue and burgundy are reversed . i may still choose to use a blue color but at least now i can find out what was original. thank you again.

My cowl info is similar to the initial posters, the codes I am still trying to figure out are

61 F PNT

61 = Burnish Brown Poly (I have also found it as Drk Brown Met.) (?)
But I can't decode the F

Also the TR 700, I have found as Fawn and as above Saddle Vinyl Bench (There probably isn't much as a color difference between the two, but I wanted to be correct)

The last line also has an L that I haven't been able to decode.
The last line reads:
11B 09204 L

11B= Nov. 2nd Week
09204 = ? internal plant number? If so is there any significance?

and the L (Which is directly under the 61 lower body paint code). This car was assembled in KAN.

Thanks

ETA:

I have found 2- 1969 color charts, I am now on the train of thought that the Drk Brown Met, (http://www.chevelles.com/years/69/69paint.html) is the name used on Canada assembled cars where Burnish Brown (http://autocolorlibrary.com/chips/1969-chevrolet-pg01.jpg) is the name used for US assembled cars. My guess is that it is the same, although the chip quality isn't the best to say for sure.

I am still clueless for the paint code F :(

Do I assume vehicle is a 1969? You hint at it but don't say?


F is not a paint code. Its the color of the top, either vinyl or convertible

61 - Burnished Brown
F - Brown Vinyl Top color

L is an unknown internal plant code. Lots of speculation on what it could mean but its all WAG's. (wild a$$ guess's). One theory is that it was sort of like a routing code to tell what line the car was to be assembled on. But like I said, no one has ever been able to deciphed those letter codes found on car from other plants as well.

09204 is a truncated portion of the DP SEQ NO (10-12 digits) from box 24 on the build sheet, Data Processing Sequence Number. Just a number that was generated by the computer system, of no significance to anyone once the car was built. Internally is tied all the computer records together for processing. KC was a big GM Assemby complex (in several locations in the KC metro area and Lenexa, KS ) with several Fisher Body shops and GM assembly linea building many GM models, Chevy, Olds, Pontiac. Chevelles were a drop in the bucket to the total production output and they had to keep them separte in some way and the DP SEQ NO was how the old punch card computer system was able to keep things from getting mixed up.

The receiving body bank matched the arriving bodies against customer orders so that the final assembly could be scheduled. When the body entered the area, the clerk entered the body number from the cowl tag and the newly assigned VIN into the computer, which cross-referenced back to the "ident number" and dealer order number. This data resulted in generation of the precise specifications and all the Chevrolet parts required for that particular car and prepared the file that would generate the "Broadcast Copy" when the car was released.

Thanks much!!

Do I assume vehicle is a 1969? You hint at it but don't say?
Unfortunately I am prone to brain farts such as this.
yep - This info is from a '69 el camino

I was fairly sure that the F was for a vinyl top, but for some reason I just went on refering to it by pnt instead.

So would this be a dark brown? I kept wondering if it was F=fawn or the light beige color, but that is just after I saw a picture of one like that.

Thanks again

Its a dark brown, a unique color IMO.

Here is a link to some color chips for 1969.

I know someone with a 1969 Z28 Camaro in that color. Not many of that color seen.

http://autocolorlibrary.com/cgi-bin/search/searchpic.pl?1969-chevrolet-pg01.jpg

After you pointed out that I kept refering to it as paint not vinyl (*slap forehead*) I googled vinyl codes. I trusted your answer, I just wanted other original top colors '69's came with incase one struck me better. I am warming to the brown though.

Anyway, I came up with this handy chart
http://www.autoobsession.com/RestorationParts/Codes/Codes69.html

for different years, just change the 69 to the year wanted (as I found it on a 71 year page).

On that chart I do wonder about the double letters (FF or BB etc..) for the vinyl. I read somewhere on my search that those were for convertible tops.

That color chart you posted is from the same site as the one I posted above, but it showes the colors better from your link (on my monitor)..strange. The other link -the picture of chips at bottom of page-(Drk Brown), I thought was canadian, but after looking again I think it was for Olds Pontiac and Buick not Caminos/Chevelles. (another brain fart)

THANKS AGAIN :cool:

It was used on all Chevy's

Double letter codes are not on tags. Chevy lilterature and order info shows double letters (FF, AA etc) for ordering but space on the trim tag was limited, so they did not used 2 letters. Note-Same codes for both ragtop and vinyl. It was obvious from the model which was a ragtop so no need to have seperate codes.

Keep in mind that there were some 15 or so plants that produced the A-Body during its run in the 1960's and not all did things exactly the same. Many of the plants were still controlled by various GM divisions although they were transitioning to a GMAD single management control at all plants starting in 1968.

61 - Burnished Brown was a standard Chevy color in 1969 available on all models exc. Corvettes which had thier own color palette.

It was not a popular color and was dropped in 1970.

PS-I cannot make the spell checker work?? Was the???

I thought all this would be in the front of the service manual. I was sure wrong! Can someone help me? I am trying to figure out the correct color of my seats and bench. I have a 1976 EC Classic. On the drivers door it says:

03/76 GVWR 554LB GAWR

and then it says

FRT 2602LB RR 2942LB

About all I can figure is 03/76 was when it was made. Can anyone point me to a web site with this info?

Thanks

jack

I thought all this would be in the front of the service manual. I was sure wrong! Can someone help me? I am trying to figure out the correct color of my seats and bench. I have a 1976 EC Classic. On the drivers door it says:

03/76 GVWR 554LB GAWR

and then it says

FRT 2602LB RR 2942LB

About all I can figure is 03/76 was when it was made. Can anyone point me to a web site with this info?

Thanks

jack


GVWR is gross vehicle weight rating which meant weight of vehicle + load.
FRT is total weight of front and RR is total weight of rear. Your elky should have an empty weight of around 3600 to 3800 LBS. If I were you I would go to a truck stop or co-op and get it on a scale and weigh it and get a empty weight. Hope this helps.

Brian

The trim info is one a plate under the hood about the size of a credit card.

fyi-In some states the El Camino is considered a truck and in other states its a car. Its both really....

My first truck was car. 1972 El Camino SS350.