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I am looking at a '76 el Camino and the guy says it is an SS, but how do you tell? It does not have any of the basic or classic mouldings and does not look like it ever did (no holes in front fenders for mouldings, etc).

Is there any way to tell from the trim tag? Also, what is the trim tag code for bucket seat with no console? Did they ever do just buckets without a console? Seems like it is factory since it has the center brace and inner bucket seat bolts but absolutely no console.

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Mate, I thought this was going to be an easy question to answer, ie. just take a look at the VIN Decoder right here on ECC

http://elcaminocentral.com/Necoa/VIV&Trim_Info.htm

But it does not mention the SS. Might be worth reviewing though.
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John,

Thanks for the suggestion but I already went that route.

What I am looking for is what came on the SS that did not come on the Classic or standard models that can help identify a true SS.

An ordering guide would probably help identify these items but I do not have one.

Anybody help?

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I hope this helps:
The photo is from my 76 SS.




The Dash has the round gauges but the bezel is supposed to be black (I replaced mine with the wood grain one shown, the original had some nasty cracks)

The Shifter should be in the console on the floor. The dash over the glove box has an SS symbol.

The Grill has an SS symbol.

The headlights are the "stacked" type (two on a side).

There is NO rocker panel trim.

THere is Wheel well trim.

When I get time I'll look up more stuff, I'm at work, gotta client that just walked in....

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Buckets without a console would be unusual, but I'm not sure you couldn't buy one that way. The car should have a small SS emblem on the passenger side dash and one on the lower driver's side of the grille. I would also look for any evidence that it ever had the SS stripes on the sides or at the tailgate (in the the jambs of the doors and gate is a good place to look). It should have had the wheelwell trim - to me this is a red flag about it being an SS especially if the holes aren't there in the rear wheelwells. Of course, it could have had both the quarters and front fenders replaced at some time, eliminating the holes.
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Iím not positive, but I think the inside of the doors (upper panels) are only a certain type, they have the 2 chrome strips and a row of buttons in the center.

No build sheet? (Look in the springs up under the seats, that's where mine was)

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"Z15" Option should be on the VIN plate.
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"Z15" Option should be on the VIN plate.
Thanks Pete. That is what I was looking for, thr RPO for the SS option and if it should be on the VIN plate just like the RPO for the bucket seats/console.

Did the VIN code come as a "D" base model becuase this car is definitely a the base model and not the "Classic"?

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I think the answer is "Yes". Z15 is the option code for the SS El Camino that is for sure. Some years you could get a ordinary no frills car with the SS Option package. Essentially you were ordering a race car not any type of luxury vehicle with all the bells and whistles.

So I'd say yes it is a possibility that the SS you have could be a very plane version of the El Camino on the outside with a big motor and 400 Trans. In the 60s and 70s lots of people wanted them that way to keep weight down. As always the lighter the faster.

SS Stripes on the 4th generation was not dual strips on the hood they were along the side of the Elky, no chrome or trim just a solid white strip with SS in front. Like what you see on the advertisement for the Calendars now on ECC. Gauges and Console and Floor shifts were extras.

5th Generation Elkys were only an Option Package with Decals. No extra power just a stripe package and two tone paint. If you wanted gauges you ordered them and if you wanted buckets or a console you had to order that too.
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The "D" in the VIN just indicates El Camino, not what sort of El Camino.
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The "D" in the VIN just indicates El Camino, not what sort of El Camino.
On my 72 the "D" means it's a Custom the "80" means it's a 2 door sedan Pickup. also on the 80 model I have "80" is basically the same thing. But that is in the VIN Numbers. The VIN number is not going to indicate whether or not it's a SS.

I realize I said VIN plate It is sometimes called a Cowl tag. I'm not actually sure what the plate is called it is on the cowl and it gives body and paint codes and things like that. That is where the Z15 should show up if it's going to show up.

Remember Chevrolet was very inconsistent with labeling "SS" models. They were a Z15 Option but locating the actual number saying "Z15" is hit and miss at best.

Read this

http://www.chevelles.com/elcamino/

then this

http://www.chevelles.com/shop/ss_ident.html

these are about as good of a source of information as GM would be.
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Elkypete,

So was the wheel well trim is an option on the 76 SS?

I know it's different than the 76 Classic Wheel well trim, and the Classic is what the SS is based on. (Or so I thought)

The 4th gen SS below (itís 77SSís and a real nice example IMO) is what I personally would call a true, stock, 4th gen, SS.



My package from GM has a list of 76 SS options, (at least I think is does) I'll have to look when I get home and see if I can create a list for here.

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The wheel well trim is different. The "Classic" had rocker panels along the bottom which cut the wheel well trim down some front and back. I believe that the only real inheritance was the stacked head lights. The ordinary 76 didn't have the stacked headlights.

The Classic trim was a two tone paint scheme, the body side moldings and the rear gate molding, along with the stacked headlights and front and rear bumper pads. You could order the Bucket Seats (Swivel seats) and console with the gauge package on the classic but they were an ordered item along with things like electric windows, door locks etc...

I like that 77 it is a good example of a 4th generation Super Sport. I like the stripe on the side I think it was a nice touch. Some of the stripes people put on the 4th generation Elkys are nicely done but they are not original. Us 4th generation owners got mostly a "Comfort" car not a performance car. Even the Super Sports were more comfort but they had some beefed up suspension systems.
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Hey guys, thanks for the comments on my 77 SS.

From all the info I've been able to find, the SS was a "trim only" option for 76 and 77. In order to get it, you had to order the "Classic" option, to which the SS package was added.

Also, as far as I know, the console and bucket seats where not something you would be able to get a separate items, but rather part of the whole SS package.

If you do not have a center console, then I would suspect that it is not an SS.

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