700R4 Verses 200-4R?

[DONE DEAL DONNY]

I think I've had both of them in at least a couple of El Caminos
I know the Pinko had a 700R4 and I (think I remember) Thumper having a 200 4R?
It seems like both had a sissy second gear that I hated. 1st and 3rd were fine but second always seemed mushy????
The Pinko you could not hold in first it would shift to second anyways. It would sit there and burn off the tires all day long but at very low RPMS
So dollar for dollar which would you go with. 200s are a lot more costly right? And this is for the 79 with 350 motor and 410 posi rear end that I'm sure will be dogged all day!!
Thoughts?
Donny

[cam81]

If I'm not mistaken, both can be built to handle the same abuse. Although the 700R4 can be done for less. If they are set up for the same level of performance, then the question really boils down to 1st gear ratios. The 700R4 has the 3.08 gear while the 200-4R has the 2.74 gear. With 4.10 gears in the back, it might not make any real difference at all what that gear ratio is, so I might suggest finding the least expensive one available to you keeping in mind the modifications you have to make to fit either one into the Camino.

-Jarod

[DONE DEAL DONNY]

Oh come on, I can just open the glove box and put it in that way can't I????
Your right, the mounts and everything else will come into price!!
Donny

[woody31]

same as above ,,,and the 200-4r has a better gear split between 1-2 gears,,(less rpm drop)..

[1980SteelBeast]

with those gears,theres no way either of those will help you. Go with 3.73's and a 200 4r.
If you need one,my buddy who beefed mine up is available...

[TrannyMike]

Originally Posted by 1980SteelBeast

with those gears,theres no way either of those will help you. Go with 3.73's and a 200 4r.
If you need one,my buddy who beefed mine up is available...

Interesting beastie. What trans would you say should go with that diff?

[1980SteelBeast]

Originally Posted by TrannyMike

Interesting beastie. What trans would you say should go with that diff?

He should be rolling Fred Flinstone style! The feet are the trans and engine! Lol. Havent had my coffee. He should go with a 200 4r. Right?

[andiamo]

I have a question, what transmission is in the car now? The cost of having the driveshaft cut down if a 200-4r would be a direct bolt on could offset some of the cost of building the 200-4r beefier. If you want a deep trans pan for the 200 be prepared to pay double what one for a 700r4 costs sadly. I do love my 200 though and it had 370k miles on the factory build when I had it rebuilt.

[jkk]

I have a 700r4 in mine the one two shift rpm drop not a real issue as my 383 makes enough torque it will burn em off all the way thru third till you get off it.............impresses the ladies

[cam81]

Originally Posted by andiamo

I have a question, what transmission is in the car now? The cost of having the driveshaft cut down if a 200-4r would be a direct bolt on could offset some of the cost of building the 200-4r beefier. If you want a deep trans pan for the 200 be prepared to pay double what one for a 700r4 costs sadly. I do love my 200 though and it had 370k miles on the factory build when I had it rebuilt.

the driveshaft for the 700 is one consideration in the overall cost, the crossmember for the 200 is another consideration. If he doesn't already have a core, finding an inexpensive core that isn't ruined is probably going to be the deciding factor. As far as the 700R4, I think there are two different ones available with 27 or 30 spline input shaft. I think this difference correlates to strength of the transmission. I will have to defer to others here about this information though.

-Jarod

[BigAl 327]

Go with the 700R4. Biger number means biger HP, RIGHT?? I think $$$$ factor would be a big factor. I have heard they both are good.

[DONE DEAL DONNY]

It sounds like the 700 might be the best deal for the money.
I'm still going to be thinking on it but I wish to thank everyone for your input!!!!
Donny

[JJLT1]

never had a 200-4r,, i allways assuumed?? there was a reason they never put them in trucks?? and they quit making them??

i have had several 700s,, and do love that 3.06 first gear.. it can save you a rear gear change, sometimes..
700s do have there weak links/parts.. i have broke a few..

the 1st to 2nd rpm drop allways comes up,, so i looked and its about 242 rpm???
and about 100 rpm for the 2nd to 3rd shift.. not much difference to me..
do the math maybe i did it wrong??
http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/GearCalc.html (just add in the 200-4r ratios)

any more info TranyMike?? price to rebuild each one that would handle 500ftlb torq??
i need a early 4L60E repair now..

Trans1st Gear2nd Gear3rd Gear4th GearReverse
Powerglide 1.76/1.82 1.00-
TH350 2.52 1.52 1.00---1.94
TH400 2.48 1.48 1.00---2.07
TH200-4R 2.74 1.57 1.000 .67 2.06
TH700-R4 3.06 1.62 1.000 .70 2.29
4L80E 2.43 1.49 1.000 .75 2.07

[melissadunagan]

Hey Donny just put a T5 in it and not worry about those slush boxes. That is what I am doing.

[Mr.NastyTimes_86_eLky]

Im going with the 2004r.. its the best!!!! you know how i know....
because i have one...