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New Jegs 350

When installing this engine,I can use the old water pump,starter,fuel pump etc. from my old 305????I plan on using the old quadrajet (It works fine)but,putting a performer intake manifold on...So,except for fluids and belts,what else would I HAVE to replace????Harmonic balancer???Flexplate???What else? I plan on deleteing the smog stuff...No inspections in S.C.Do I need to replace the distributer ???
 

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I bought the 260 version about a year back for my el camino, swapped it in with the old motors (another 350) intake manifold, water pump, balancer, power steering, and alternator, no problem. During that swap we tossed in a lunati cam, new jegs exhaust (2.5 inches all the way back), hooker headers, and MSD ignition. Still has the suspension of a worn out 40 year old cruck, but I can spin tires if I mash on it. Crushed one or two hondas in that time. :2gunsfiring:
 

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30 to 350

I bought the 260 version about a year back for my el camino, swapped it in with the old motors (another 350) intake manifold, water pump, balancer, power steering, and alternator, no problem. During that swap we tossed in a lunati cam, new jegs exhaust (2.5 inches all the way back), hooker headers, and MSD ignition. Still has the suspension of a worn out 40 year old cruck, but I can spin tires if I mash on it. Crushed one or two hondas in that time. :2gunsfiring:
You went from a 350 to a 350...My question relates to going from a 305 to a 350....Water pump,can I reuse the old one?Aside from gaskets,fluids and belts,What else needs to be changed????Harmonic balancer???I plan on changing the intake manifold.I'd like to keep the old quadrajet...Will my old computer still work the same...Not changing tranny at this time....
 

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The water pump is the same, but for the money, you'd be smart to put a new one on.

I just put a new Jegs 350 in my T. Seems to run great. All the problems I've had related to things I didn't change, like an electric fuel pump. Your flex plate and balancer should bolt right up. All your brackets should be the same.
 

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I've hard alot of trash talk about the Heche En Mexico GM Crate motors. I am aware of a few problems way back in the 80's on the TargetMaster GM Goodwrech motors, but I also know of a few good ones too.

But on the GMPP Heche En Mexico crate engines you get from Summit or Jegs, I"ve not heard of anyone having a problem with them that acually had one. I've got 2 myself that were in trucks when I bought them. 1 of them has an Eddy intake and headers and runs real good. No oil loss or leaks, no complaints at all. For what's included in any of those packages, whichever you should choose, I just don't think you can get hurt for the money. If you your pencil to it, you'd probably realize you can build one for that price by the time you consider your engine kit and machine work.
 

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You went from a 350 to a 350...My question relates to going from a 305 to a 350....Water pump,can I reuse the old one?Aside from gaskets,fluids and belts,What else needs to be changed????Harmonic balancer???I plan on changing the intake manifold.I'd like to keep the old quadrajet...Will my old computer still work the same...Not changing tranny at this time....



Join Date: Sep 2007
Name: Terry B.
Location: 18(N.CA,N.NV)
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I found this article in Chevy High Performance Magazine. It is written by Kevin McClelland. I would do this. I throughly believe in his advice.

Simple Crate

I have a daily driver ’87 El Camino with a tired 305. I’d like to put a crate 350 in it. Nothing radical, just a stocker with maybe 200-250 hp. It also must pass California smog. I remember reading an article (four to five years ago) about a crate motor with an Edelbrock manifold, carb, and a 305 cam, but I no longer have the magazine. Any suggestions? Thanks,
Doug Cole
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Doug, for a simple crate 350 engine swap we recommend going with a factory GM Goodwrench crate engine. GM has been offering this engine forever. They were originally called the Target Master Crate engine and were renamed when GM started branding itself Goodwrench. GM has built millions of these engines over the years, and we’ve used them for truck and passenger car replacement engines, and whipped them on the dyno for run after run, without even a whimper. Give our good friend Ken Casey a call at the new John Elway Chevrolet (800.345.5744) for pricing and freight for a 350 Goodwrench engine (PN 10067353). This is a direct replacement engine for ’71-85 applications. This will drop right into your ’Elco and all you’ll need to pick up is a standard-balance 153-tooth flexplate (PN 471529). Yes, you will need to truck the engine out from Colorado, but Casey is very competitive with his pricing, we’re guessing under $2,000 for a brand-new engine. All this and a factory warranty on the engine for two years and 50,000 miles!
As you said, you had a story of a crate with a simple camshaft swap and manifold. We’d go with an Edelbrock Performer EGR manifold (PN 3701), and the matching camshaft (PN 3702). This camshaft shaft specs out at 194/214 duration at 0.050-inch tappet lift, 0.396/0.442-inch max lift, and is ground on 112 centers. You will notice that this is a very short camshaft. It was originally developed back in 1985 to work in the LG4 305s, which were computer controlled. Oh yeah, that’s the engine that’s in your ’Elco. This camshaft will work in concert with your factory computer calibration and pass emissions in the state of California. The short nature of this camshaft will produce great throttle response and make outstanding slow-speed torque. The engine will make strong power to 5,000 rpm and produce about 250 hp through the stock exhaust manifolds and cat.
If you wish to step up to headers, you could also add the Edelbrock TES system, which is emissions legal in California and will boost your peak horsepower on this package by around 20 hp. The TES system for your LG4 305-equipped El Camino is PN 68783. This kit will bolt right in to your El Camino’s factory 21/4-inch catalytic converter. If you wish to step up the exhaust to the high-flow Corvette four-bolt–style converter, go with PN 68793. This, in conjunction with a nice after-cat exhaust, will round out your emissions-legal engine swap nicely.
We know this engine won’t turn the world with its sheer power, but it will give you a great daily driver that will get decent gas mileage and produce over 100 hp more than the stock 305! This will make a big difference in the fun factory with your ’Elco. Good luck! CHP
Sources: edelbrock.com, elwaydealers.com
 

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Name: Terry B.
Location: 18(N.CA,N.NV)
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Default 350 build

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I found this article in Chevy High Performance Magazine. It is written by Kevin McClelland. I would do this. I throughly believe in his advice.

Simple Crate

I have a daily driver ’87 El Camino with a tired 305. I’d like to put a crate 350 in it. Nothing radical, just a stocker with maybe 200-250 hp. It also must pass California smog. I remember reading an article (four to five years ago) about a crate motor with an Edelbrock manifold, carb, and a 305 cam, but I no longer have the magazine. Any suggestions? Thanks,
Doug Cole
Via email
Doug, for a simple crate 350 engine swap we recommend going with a factory GM Goodwrench crate engine. GM has been offering this engine forever. They were originally called the Target Master Crate engine and were renamed when GM started branding itself Goodwrench. GM has built millions of these engines over the years, and we’ve used them for truck and passenger car replacement engines, and whipped them on the dyno for run after run, without even a whimper. Give our good friend Ken Casey a call at the new John Elway Chevrolet (800.345.5744) for pricing and freight for a 350 Goodwrench engine (PN 10067353). This is a direct replacement engine for ’71-85 applications. This will drop right into your ’Elco and all you’ll need to pick up is a standard-balance 153-tooth flexplate (PN 471529). Yes, you will need to truck the engine out from Colorado, but Casey is very competitive with his pricing, we’re guessing under $2,000 for a brand-new engine. All this and a factory warranty on the engine for two years and 50,000 miles!
As you said, you had a story of a crate with a simple camshaft swap and manifold. We’d go with an Edelbrock Performer EGR manifold (PN 3701), and the matching camshaft (PN 3702). This camshaft shaft specs out at 194/214 duration at 0.050-inch tappet lift, 0.396/0.442-inch max lift, and is ground on 112 centers. You will notice that this is a very short camshaft. It was originally developed back in 1985 to work in the LG4 305s, which were computer controlled. Oh yeah, that’s the engine that’s in your ’Elco. This camshaft will work in concert with your factory computer calibration and pass emissions in the state of California. The short nature of this camshaft will produce great throttle response and make outstanding slow-speed torque. The engine will make strong power to 5,000 rpm and produce about 250 hp through the stock exhaust manifolds and cat.
If you wish to step up to headers, you could also add the Edelbrock TES system, which is emissions legal in California and will boost your peak horsepower on this package by around 20 hp. The TES system for your LG4 305-equipped El Camino is PN 68783. This kit will bolt right in to your El Camino’s factory 21/4-inch catalytic converter. If you wish to step up the exhaust to the high-flow Corvette four-bolt–style converter, go with PN 68793. This, in conjunction with a nice after-cat exhaust, will round out your emissions-legal engine swap nicely.
We know this engine won’t turn the world with its sheer power, but it will give you a great daily driver that will get decent gas mileage and produce over 100 hp more than the stock 305! This will make a big difference in the fun factory with your ’Elco. Good luck! CHP
Sources: edelbrock.com, elwaydealers.com
Whew !!! After all that.... Then add the 125hp Sniper Nitrous Plate.....:secret: :dontknow: and you've more than doubled your hp from your OEM 305. You know, just for the freeway onramps and such. :yell:
 

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Whew !!! After all that.... Then add the 125hp Sniper Nitrous Plate.....:secret: :dontknow: and you've more than doubled your hp from your OEM 305. You know, just for the freeway onramps and such. :yell:


Hell freeway on ramps I guess you haven't been to Los Angeles for awhile. They have lights that only let one car go at a time. It's on-ramp gridlock down here.!!!!!!!
 

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I have a Goodwrench 350. They're decent little engines and respond well to changes. Sadly they have cast pistons, which doesn't make a lot of sense with the 4-bolt mains and fairly decent rods. The compression is ridiculously low and is actually closer 8:1 than the advertised 8.5:1.
 

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Hell freeway on ramps I guess you haven't been to Los Angeles for awhile. They have lights that only let one car go at a time. It's on-ramp gridlock down here.!!!!!!!
That's only during peak traffic hours. You can take advantage of it about 2am or so.

I have a Goodwrench 350. They're decent little engines and respond well to changes. Sadly they have cast pistons, which doesn't make a lot of sense with the 4-bolt mains and fairly decent rods. The compression is ridiculously low and is actually closer 8:1 than the advertised 8.5:1.
That is one of my complaints too.
 

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Flex plate

I'm still confused.I read both...I need a new one and the old one from a 305 will work...Which is it...When taking out a 305 and putting in a 350,can I use the flexplate from the 305????
 

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85 and older use the same flexplate,, but it could be a 153 or a 168 tooth,,
86 up have the newer weighted flexplate and bolt pattern for the 1 piece rear oil seal..:sneaky1:
350 Goodwrench engine (PN 10067353). This is a direct replacement engine for ’71-85 applications.
What else needs to be changed????Harmonic balancer???
the timing marks are different on a 305,, but it will work with a different pointer.. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-4600/overview/make/chevrolet
 

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the new motor comes with 2 pointers.
 

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and there both wrong,, for a 305 balancer with the pointer at 12 oclock,,
they work for the 350 balancer with the pointer at 2 oclock..:usa:
Ok mine was an 87 305 putting the new 85 crate 350 I had to change the flex plate, balancer, intake manifold and the rest fit. Yes my pointer is at 2 oclock.

Sorry for the mis-info
 

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Flexplate???

85 and older use the same flexplate,, but it could be a 153 or a 168 tooth,,
86 up have the newer weighted flexplate and bolt pattern for the 1 piece rear oil seal


the timing marks are different on a 305,, but it will work with a different pointer.. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-4600/overview/make/chevrolet
OK,with an 85 do I need a 153 or a 168???What do I do,count the teeth?I'm trying to use the flexplate from my 305 on my new 350....
 

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I'm trying to use the flexplate from my 305 on my new 350
that will work, but check the teeth,, it may be worn down..

you probly have a 153 tooth, you can measure them 12.75" is 153,, 14" is 168, those aren't exact but close..
ether one will work, but if you change the diameter?? youll need the starter for the new one..:texas:
 

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That's only during peak traffic hours. You can take advantage of it about 2am or so.


That is one of my complaints too.

I wait till 3:00 am that gives the drunks a head start and the Highway Patrol something to do and I just fly through.
 
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