Now I have no person to up for a running around me. However, for SD I see SoCal Elk or BigAl327 as good members for this job. They where good host on the Run we did in SD. That is, if one of them will take the job.
:You_Rock:
:You_Rock:
NECOA plans to relign Regions 17 & 18
oke:Ok, seeing as know one else has brought it up I will.
The plans seem to be to split 17 up for just California in a min of San Diego, LA/OC, and SF bay area. They are looking for regional directors for these hubs. They may add smaller or more directors to spots with more members.
"We also want to get your input on which members would be good candidates for these positions. Our initial thoughts are that we need Deputy Directors in San Diego, Los Angeles, and the SF Bay Area, at least, but we want the local members to tell us where other ones might be appropriate. Please talk this up amongst yourselves and also on the Regional 17 and 18 Forums on El Camino Central. It is likely that California will become a single state Region unto itself, with as many Deputy Directors as needed to reflect actual membership and activity levels. There is probably no point in having a Northern Cal and Southern Cal division, and no good way to even draw such a boundary. But that is a decision that must be based on the input from our members in California."
So here is your thread to weigh in. :cali:
1 - 20 of 22 Posts
I think a Deputy Director would be a good idea for the Sacramento area. I don’t know if we have enough elco owners up here around Sacramento for a D.D. but if we do it would be better to be separate from the SF bay area. If not then just group us in.
hey 74 chick im still here been around but ur right we need somebody localy to stand up at take charge
I suggested that they do the DD thing with northern and southern ohio too. big state!
:dontknow:
:dontknow:
well,lets all get together and discuss this,there is a few up here in Northern Cal. where "Rick and Sue Harringtons" is really close to Sac. I think "Dabayelky" would be great for the Bay Aera."Goodcruser" in the Sac. aera, me,well, West northern coast of Cal.(Willits, Ukiah,Ft.Bragg and Weott) . Every year there a Redwood run to Weott and its BIG and a lot of fun."Goodcruser" would be great for northern central and east of Cal.(Red Bluff,Grass Valley/Nevada City and North San Juan, just saying):beer:I think a Deputy Director would be a good idea for the Sacramento area. I don’t know if we have enough elco owners up here around Sacramento for a D.D. but if we do it would be better to be separate from the SF bay area. If not then just group us in.
change the whole state...
Ok, seeing as know one else has brought it up I will.
There is probably no point in having a Northern Cal and Southern Cal division, and no good way to even draw such a boundary. But that is a decision that must be based on the input from our members in California."
So here is your thread to weigh in. :cali:
California has 3 differnt regions... north,certral and south..
where did I get this information from you ask??...Google it.....I did.:beer:
Attachments
-
8.2 KB Views: 706 -
14.1 KB Views: 713
I kinda like the northern/southern CA thing. Include Central in the southern group.
There are just tons of EC's in our area. Many years ago there was an EC club in Sacramento.
A problem that we have is most local/regional shows are 1972 and prior........... it really ties me in a knot.
There are just tons of EC's in our area. Many years ago there was an EC club in Sacramento.
A problem that we have is most local/regional shows are 1972 and prior........... it really ties me in a knot.
I would also recommend So Cal Elk or Big Al 327 as a deputy director. Their commitment is outstanding and Steve does a great job at organizing activities.
I see a few thing wrong with the map that Gilby posted. First is that making the state of Calif into three different regions is something that the regional directors are tring to get away from. With the split that was proposed it would still be too big for local get togethers. If we have more local groups promoting ECC this would be better.
San Diego would be a good location for a local group, LA/Orange county would also be another. Then another could be bakerfield, monterey / fresno, SF/ Sac, Eureka. It is all on how far someone is willing to drive to be apart of ECC's gatherings. Then the next thing is who is willing to be the depty director for that local group.
Is there anything from the BIG MAN (regional directors) on how to hold meetings/ get togethers? How often to meet? This is all info that we should know about before nominating a canidate!
Well now that I have said my two cents worth or opion,
Thank you.
BigAl 327
San Diego would be a good location for a local group, LA/Orange county would also be another. Then another could be bakerfield, monterey / fresno, SF/ Sac, Eureka. It is all on how far someone is willing to drive to be apart of ECC's gatherings. Then the next thing is who is willing to be the depty director for that local group.
Is there anything from the BIG MAN (regional directors) on how to hold meetings/ get togethers? How often to meet? This is all info that we should know about before nominating a canidate!
Well now that I have said my two cents worth or opion,
Thank you.
BigAl 327
Ok,here are the "Lines"and its all ready drawn out,anything south of Montery,Kings,Tular and Inyo countys is considered "Southern California"...:beer:I kinda like the northern/southern CA thing. Include Central in the southern group.
There are just tons of EC's in our area. Many years ago there was an EC club in Sacramento.
A problem that we have is most local/regional shows are 1972 and prior........... it really ties me in a knot.
Or we can go with this map that shows anything from the "south Bay',is,considered "Southen California"...I don't know how many D.D. you'll will need for regons 17&18.
Maybe if each one of us ( N.&S. Cal.) pick a aera on this map,it just might help us get things rolling. I don't know,any help to get this going would be great.---Gilby--:beer:
Attachments
-
34 KB Views: 728 -
56.3 KB Views: 702
Unanswered Questions?
We, the leadership of the revitalized NECOA, want to provide services to our membership, and we would like for that philosophy to become ingrained in every member. By all helping each other, we can make this an association that every El Camino or Sprint owner wants to be a part of. Members are encouraged to start up El Camino clubs - whether as an NECOA sub-group (NECOA - San Diego), or as a club who joins with the NECOA as it's umbrella organization (Sunny Beach El Camino Club). Please contact any of the national leadership for more information, or go to the "Articles" Forums, "NECOA" Thread, for specific duties expected of our leaders......................Ken, Deputy National Director :beer:
Al, there are no hard and fast rules about how, when, where, or how often to hold meetings - those issues would be up to the members of a particular area who have joined together. The NECOA needs leaders to step up and recruit members, organize those members along with our existing members, and take the lead in finding venues for meetings, local shows, and regional shows. Leaders should take every opportunity to assist their fellow members by knowing where they can go for information, repairs, or just to meet up with a members who lives close to them.I see a few thing wrong with the map that Gilby posted. First is that making the state of Calif into three different regions is something that the regional directors are tring to get away from. With the split that was proposed it would still be too big for local get togethers. If we have more local groups promoting ECC this would be better.
San Diego would be a good location for a local group, LA/Orange county would also be another. Then another could be bakerfield, monterey / fresno, SF/ Sac, Eureka. It is all on how far someone is willing to drive to be apart of ECC's gatherings. Then the next thing is who is willing to be the depty director for that local group.
Is there anything from the BIG MAN (regional directors) on how to hold meetings/ get togethers? How often to meet? This is all info that we should know about before nominating a canidate!
Well now that I have said my two cents worth or opion,
Thank you.
BigAl 327
We, the leadership of the revitalized NECOA, want to provide services to our membership, and we would like for that philosophy to become ingrained in every member. By all helping each other, we can make this an association that every El Camino or Sprint owner wants to be a part of. Members are encouraged to start up El Camino clubs - whether as an NECOA sub-group (NECOA - San Diego), or as a club who joins with the NECOA as it's umbrella organization (Sunny Beach El Camino Club). Please contact any of the national leadership for more information, or go to the "Articles" Forums, "NECOA" Thread, for specific duties expected of our leaders......................Ken, Deputy National Director :beer:
I really like the way this thread is developing. Our goal in this reorganization is simply to get clusters of Elky owners together for shows and events close to home -- if there are enough members and interest to do so. Ken Rogers is correct that there are no hard and fast rules on how and when you do things. All we ask is that you follow the general NECOA guidelines and use our logos and gear to ensure consistency across the country, while promoting El Camino ownership in general and NECOA as a club. The national leadership will try to make materials and information available as needed to support your local efforts.
One member pointed out correctly that we are trying not to focus on map drawing at all, so please put that effort aside. The concept is simply encourage members to meet up for locally planned events as often as you have the desire. The number of Deputy Directors will be directly related to where the members are active. Some of the names mentioned in this thread are just the kind of leaders we are looking for. Our intention is to make the scope of the job more manageable for these Deputy Directors by concentrating in areas like SD, Bay Area, LA, etc., with little or no travel required.
Once a particular locale has discussed potential candidates like you are now doing, simply send me a PM to nominate them. We will follow up on those names and make an appointment of the most suitable Deputy Director soon after to start organizing local get-togethers and such. These appointments will be done on an individual basis as some sort of consensus develops in each locale. Keep up the great effort!
One member pointed out correctly that we are trying not to focus on map drawing at all, so please put that effort aside. The concept is simply encourage members to meet up for locally planned events as often as you have the desire. The number of Deputy Directors will be directly related to where the members are active. Some of the names mentioned in this thread are just the kind of leaders we are looking for. Our intention is to make the scope of the job more manageable for these Deputy Directors by concentrating in areas like SD, Bay Area, LA, etc., with little or no travel required.
Once a particular locale has discussed potential candidates like you are now doing, simply send me a PM to nominate them. We will follow up on those names and make an appointment of the most suitable Deputy Director soon after to start organizing local get-togethers and such. These appointments will be done on an individual basis as some sort of consensus develops in each locale. Keep up the great effort!
What I see is that most want to see our hobby progress and be more fullfilling individually and the best way to do that is to form individual Chapters, so say we pick a central location and draw a circle of 50 to 75 miles .Everyone in that radius becomes a Chapter member,however if you feel you are not quite as good a fit with that group and fit better with another you can request membership to your prefered group.I know that there are going to be some that just don't set in a particular radius so you just pick the one that fits for you and chapters will need to come up with an agreeable way of moving meetings around so that the burden of distance is not always on the same people.Chapters will also have to figure how many each chapter can accommodate to to achieve a balance of enjoyment of commeraderie and improvement on our El Caminos.Some areas may have enough El Caminos in its radius to have more than one chapter in this case everyone in that radius gets together and chooses where they where they want to attend, I say this because personnalities play a part in any club atmosphere and we don't want conflict in our Chapter,as conflict drives people away.
Okay now to the improvement of our El Caminos, hypothetically lets say that Gilby wants to do some paint chip repair and a cut and buff to make his El Camino look better the chapter gets together he presents his proposal for this task, the group agrees to a time and place best suitable for the task and provided they have someone that knows how to detail a car and Gilby provides the materials needed.If your chapter does not have anyone capable of auto detailing correctly and another Chapter does they can request from that Chapter that either their person can come and teach Gilby's Chapter how to do it or someone from Gilby's can visit the other Chapter when they are going to do a detailing job learn how to do it the right way and bring that knowledge back to share with the rest of his group.Understand that this only works if everyone understands that it is an obligation to learn,assist and reciprocate in kind and in turn we each get the accomplishment of knowing that we have helped each other in making everyones El Camino safer,more reliable and visually better, with this pride in our group(s) We hold each other and our hobby higher with good presentation.
To those that have businesses in bodywork and painting and other areas we cannot expect you to just give everything away as this is what makes your living and this is not meant to take advantage but maybe you can give direction or instruction in your field of expertize.But if it is ageeable maybe you could give a group discount on those things that we do not have the right equipment to accomplish the task.
Chapter members when you see an El Camino that is not in your chapter leave a flyer invitation to your Chapter for possible membership participitation if for no other reason other than letting them know there are others out here like them and who knows you might make another life friend.
As for regional managers it doesn't matter what the regions are as long as there is coordination and sharing of information in a timely basis and mutual assistance between regional,assistant regional and chapter head managers, these positions should be filled first by volunteer and then if there is more than one volunteer it would need to go to vote by those they will represent,If a particular rep is not doing the job there is absolutely no need to get nasty about it ,get together present your objections about the job and what you believe needs to be done to correct the deficiencies to the Rep in question,if there is no remedy to the situation or problem then contact the next Representative up the line and inform them of the problem that exists but be prepared to offer a suitable remedy that you believe will work.We are almost always better off when we work together to alleviate problems.
Problems within the indivdual Chapters are worked out within the Chapter first, if it cannot be remedied within the Chapter request assistance from your assitant regional manager.All Chapters are responsible for obeying State and local laws in the conduct of the Chapter and this includes EPA and Smog laws and vehicle safety!So each Chapter will have to come up with a code of conduct for it's members,each member is answerable to the group as a whole as this is a democratic group, your group Chapter REP or PRES however you title it is for the purpose of gathering and dispensing information and cooridinating functions within the group and informing assistant Regional director of any neccessary information pertinent to that area,such as club show meetings and such.
I can tell you from personal experience that excessive alcohol in a club will become a deterent of participation so I recommend putting a limit of some type.I'm not saying no alcohol but it must be reasonable and based on the function at hand IE powered equipment no alcohol,we want to enjoy the hobby and not cause damage to us or our friends.
I know that I am long winded but these are some of the things I believe it will take to accomplish what some have expressed as their desire of this hobby.Please by all means state your opinions on this subject and add to it if you feel like it but I believe if you really want to accomplish this most of it will have to start at the bottom with us while NECOA decides how it wants to be a participitant with us .
THANK YOU Rick AKA goodcruiser
Okay now to the improvement of our El Caminos, hypothetically lets say that Gilby wants to do some paint chip repair and a cut and buff to make his El Camino look better the chapter gets together he presents his proposal for this task, the group agrees to a time and place best suitable for the task and provided they have someone that knows how to detail a car and Gilby provides the materials needed.If your chapter does not have anyone capable of auto detailing correctly and another Chapter does they can request from that Chapter that either their person can come and teach Gilby's Chapter how to do it or someone from Gilby's can visit the other Chapter when they are going to do a detailing job learn how to do it the right way and bring that knowledge back to share with the rest of his group.Understand that this only works if everyone understands that it is an obligation to learn,assist and reciprocate in kind and in turn we each get the accomplishment of knowing that we have helped each other in making everyones El Camino safer,more reliable and visually better, with this pride in our group(s) We hold each other and our hobby higher with good presentation.
To those that have businesses in bodywork and painting and other areas we cannot expect you to just give everything away as this is what makes your living and this is not meant to take advantage but maybe you can give direction or instruction in your field of expertize.But if it is ageeable maybe you could give a group discount on those things that we do not have the right equipment to accomplish the task.
Chapter members when you see an El Camino that is not in your chapter leave a flyer invitation to your Chapter for possible membership participitation if for no other reason other than letting them know there are others out here like them and who knows you might make another life friend.
As for regional managers it doesn't matter what the regions are as long as there is coordination and sharing of information in a timely basis and mutual assistance between regional,assistant regional and chapter head managers, these positions should be filled first by volunteer and then if there is more than one volunteer it would need to go to vote by those they will represent,If a particular rep is not doing the job there is absolutely no need to get nasty about it ,get together present your objections about the job and what you believe needs to be done to correct the deficiencies to the Rep in question,if there is no remedy to the situation or problem then contact the next Representative up the line and inform them of the problem that exists but be prepared to offer a suitable remedy that you believe will work.We are almost always better off when we work together to alleviate problems.
Problems within the indivdual Chapters are worked out within the Chapter first, if it cannot be remedied within the Chapter request assistance from your assitant regional manager.All Chapters are responsible for obeying State and local laws in the conduct of the Chapter and this includes EPA and Smog laws and vehicle safety!So each Chapter will have to come up with a code of conduct for it's members,each member is answerable to the group as a whole as this is a democratic group, your group Chapter REP or PRES however you title it is for the purpose of gathering and dispensing information and cooridinating functions within the group and informing assistant Regional director of any neccessary information pertinent to that area,such as club show meetings and such.
I can tell you from personal experience that excessive alcohol in a club will become a deterent of participation so I recommend putting a limit of some type.I'm not saying no alcohol but it must be reasonable and based on the function at hand IE powered equipment no alcohol,we want to enjoy the hobby and not cause damage to us or our friends.
I know that I am long winded but these are some of the things I believe it will take to accomplish what some have expressed as their desire of this hobby.Please by all means state your opinions on this subject and add to it if you feel like it but I believe if you really want to accomplish this most of it will have to start at the bottom with us while NECOA decides how it wants to be a participitant with us .
THANK YOU Rick AKA goodcruiser
Hey guys I just saw this thread today so here's what I thinkWhat I see is that most want to see our hobby progress and be more fullfilling individually and the best way to do that is to form individual Chapters, so say we pick a central location and draw a circle of 50 to 75 miles .Everyone in that radius becomes a Chapter member,however if you feel you are not quite as good a fit with that group and fit better with another you can request membership to your prefered group.I know that there are going to be some that just don't set in a particular radius so you just pick the one that fits for you and chapters will need to come up with an agreeable way of moving meetings around so that the burden of distance is not always on the same people.Chapters will also have to figure how many each chapter can accommodate to to achieve a balance of enjoyment of commeraderie and improvement on our El Caminos.Some areas may have enough El Caminos in its radius to have more than one chapter in this case everyone in that radius gets together and chooses where they where they want to attend, I say this because personnalities play a part in any club atmosphere and we don't want conflict in our Chapter,as conflict drives people away.
Okay now to the improvement of our El Caminos, hypothetically lets say that Gilby wants to do some paint chip repair and a cut and buff to make his El Camino look better the chapter gets together he presents his proposal for this task, the group agrees to a time and place best suitable for the task and provided they have someone that knows how to detail a car and Gilby provides the materials needed.If your chapter does not have anyone capable of auto detailing correctly and another Chapter does they can request from that Chapter that either their person can come and teach Gilby's Chapter how to do it or someone from Gilby's can visit the other Chapter when they are going to do a detailing job learn how to do it the right way and bring that knowledge back to share with the rest of his group.Understand that this only works if everyone understands that it is an obligation to learn,assist and reciprocate in kind and in turn we each get the accomplishment of knowing that we have helped each other in making everyones El Camino safer,more reliable and visually better, with this pride in our group(s) We hold each other and our hobby higher with good presentation.
To those that have businesses in bodywork and painting and other areas we cannot expect you to just give everything away as this is what makes your living and this is not meant to take advantage but maybe you can give direction or instruction in your field of expertize.But if it is ageeable maybe you could give a group discount on those things that we do not have the right equipment to accomplish the task.
Chapter members when you see an El Camino that is not in your chapter leave a flyer invitation to your Chapter for possible membership participitation if for no other reason other than letting them know there are others out here like them and who knows you might make another life friend.
As for regional managers it doesn't matter what the regions are as long as there is coordination and sharing of information in a timely basis and mutual assistance between regional,assistant regional and chapter head managers, these positions should be filled first by volunteer and then if there is more than one volunteer it would need to go to vote by those they will represent,If a particular rep is not doing the job there is absolutely no need to get nasty about it ,get together present your objections about the job and what you believe needs to be done to correct the deficiencies to the Rep in question,if there is no remedy to the situation or problem then contact the next Representative up the line and inform them of the problem that exists but be prepared to offer a suitable remedy that you believe will work.We are almost always better off when we work together to alleviate problems.
Problems within the indivdual Chapters are worked out within the Chapter first, if it cannot be remedied within the Chapter request assistance from your assitant regional manager.All Chapters are responsible for obeying State and local laws in the conduct of the Chapter and this includes EPA and Smog laws and vehicle safety!So each Chapter will have to come up with a code of conduct for it's members,each member is answerable to the group as a whole as this is a democratic group, your group Chapter REP or PRES however you title it is for the purpose of gathering and dispensing information and cooridinating functions within the group and informing assistant Regional director of any neccessary information pertinent to that area,such as club show meetings and such.
I can tell you from personal experience that excessive alcohol in a club will become a deterent of participation so I recommend putting a limit of some type.I'm not saying no alcohol but it must be reasonable and based on the function at hand IE powered equipment no alcohol,we want to enjoy the hobby and not cause damage to us or our friends.
I know that I am long winded but these are some of the things I believe it will take to accomplish what some have expressed as their desire of this hobby.Please by all means state your opinions on this subject and add to it if you feel like it but I believe if you really want to accomplish this most of it will have to start at the bottom with us while NECOA decides how it wants to be a participitant with us .
THANK YOU Rick AKA goodcruiser
Good cruiser makes really good points but that is more in the lines of an official car club, essentially we are a car club but as of right now I think our main focus should be recruiting people to the site and setting up meets like the Texas guys. Say we do make chapters like good cruiser proposed, then in my area (sf bay) It would be me, sharp71, and burns possibly. There's just not enough people to do that yet.
My main concern is that norcal memberships is too thin as of now but if we establish a good leadership model and organize meets then recruiting people should be no problem once car show season starts back up
Another idea I had was that I heard hot august nights is going to be in long beach this year, I know a lot of us, probably all of us can't make it to carlise so maybe that could be the place where we unite later in the year, I would be able and would go to that. Carlise is nearly impossible for me
Dont know whats best as far as revamping areas but it seems that Big Al 327 is a very pro active member who is very active with the group and always has a positive attitude tqwards the sport , the club and the members. For me, he seems exactly what the region needs and is looking for.Brian Boru
I think that's a great idea, and a great goal we can work towards.Another idea I had was that I heard hot august nights is going to be in long beach this year, I know a lot of us, probably all of us can't make it to carlise so maybe that could be the place where we unite later in the year, I would be able and would go to that. Carlise is nearly impossible for me
It is true what I said was somewhat of a recipe for a club and didn't address those areas where it is thin, maybe we could post on Craigslist and other free media inviting people to come and check out ECC/NECOA online but we are going to have to provide a draw to hold participation or a portion will not stay and creating a more personal relationship that they can base their hobby on.
Getting together is the idea but when you get too long of a distance that eliminates a good portion of those that really want to play,such as myself money is a big deterent I am looking for work and have no money to spare so anything further than a tank of fuel roundtrip is out for me and it's the same for many out there.
I'm still open for ideas so lets here them, what do you think will work?
Getting together is the idea but when you get too long of a distance that eliminates a good portion of those that really want to play,such as myself money is a big deterent I am looking for work and have no money to spare so anything further than a tank of fuel roundtrip is out for me and it's the same for many out there.
I'm still open for ideas so lets here them, what do you think will work?
i think the business card with the website info idea that was talked about not too long ago would be a great way to possibly get more activity from others by passing them out at car shows.
another idea for meeting up would be like a rotation type schdule for the people that are closer. one month we could meet up in the south bay for all those that could go, then in SF or somewhere in that area, then up north to the Sacramento area. im right in the middle of all these areas so i could realistically go to each one if im available that weekend. and the Socal areas could do something similar as well. then at a big event all of California could meet up which i proposed the hot august night event at long beach because it is a huge event and i think it would be awesome to represent all of ECC at an event like that or even the good guys event in pleasonton. that one is huge and i always attend it
another idea for meeting up would be like a rotation type schdule for the people that are closer. one month we could meet up in the south bay for all those that could go, then in SF or somewhere in that area, then up north to the Sacramento area. im right in the middle of all these areas so i could realistically go to each one if im available that weekend. and the Socal areas could do something similar as well. then at a big event all of California could meet up which i proposed the hot august night event at long beach because it is a huge event and i think it would be awesome to represent all of ECC at an event like that or even the good guys event in pleasonton. that one is huge and i always attend it
Business Cards & Flyers
There are business cards and flyers available for all members to print out and use for the recruitment of new members - see below. These can be placed on all El Caminos and Sprints that you see while driving around your area. Once on the ECC & NECOA site, the new members can be steered to the Regional Forums where all the information related to each States' areas of activities should be located. To make this all work, we need the Directors and Deputy Directors in place and active to follow up on all new members in their area. Upon joining, each new member should be greeted by that leader who is closest to him - and that leader takes it from there by offering advice, if needed, and through introductions to other members in the area. If we follow this model, we should be able to keep more new members active in the local cells and on our Forums...............Ken, Deputy National Director
Business Card: http://www.elcaminocentral.com/showthread.php?t=38927
Flyer: http://www.elcaminocentral.com/showthread.php?t=38890
There are business cards and flyers available for all members to print out and use for the recruitment of new members - see below. These can be placed on all El Caminos and Sprints that you see while driving around your area. Once on the ECC & NECOA site, the new members can be steered to the Regional Forums where all the information related to each States' areas of activities should be located. To make this all work, we need the Directors and Deputy Directors in place and active to follow up on all new members in their area. Upon joining, each new member should be greeted by that leader who is closest to him - and that leader takes it from there by offering advice, if needed, and through introductions to other members in the area. If we follow this model, we should be able to keep more new members active in the local cells and on our Forums...............Ken, Deputy National Director
Business Card: http://www.elcaminocentral.com/showthread.php?t=38927
Flyer: http://www.elcaminocentral.com/showthread.php?t=38890
1 - 20 of 22 Posts
- This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
El Camino Central Forum
A forum community dedicated to Chevy El Camino owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more!
Full Forum Listing
Explore Our Forums
Recommended Communities
